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posted 59 days ago
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Hi Andrew! Tony here. Could I ask you about the general TuneArch policy re: merging the near-identical settings of tunes? Can such cases be reported to you or someone else and is it possible for you to set up redirects to avoid broken Wiki links?

To clarify, I see that some tune pages list a few different settings under one single entry regardless of name variations, so there we have a different setting === significantly different tune === new page. Meanwhile, other pages have been created under the assumption of different title === different setting === different tune page, while the tune is basically the same. I generally prefer the former convention but I'm not one for starting a Wiki edit war over preferences! Also I'm hesitant to touch any of the tune names even with potential typos lest we end up with broken links. I've been linking to TuneArch extensively in my own digital project (as an additional reference for Tune ID convenience) and I like the fact that each tune name is included in the URL – but that carries its risks, too.

But then again, there are clear cases of duplicate tunes like the one below:

https://tunearch.org/wiki/Glen_Cottage_Polka_(2)_(The) https://tunearch.org/wiki/Glin_Cottage_Polka_(2)_(The) https://tunearch.org/wiki/Tanglony

The last entry also includes a discography listing the polka that is actually known as "Green Cottage No. 2" (or Glen... / Glin...) while calling it something else without providing a reference. Also, while there're many spellings of that alternative title, there's only one proper spelling for the word "Taglioni". What's an editor to do?

Thanks for any suggestions – and for the great resource that is the TTA!

posted 157 days ago
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Hello again, Regarding my point 1. below, I just made a further little edit to the Fidel Martin PaddyOn The Turnpike transcription.

posted 158 days ago
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Hi Andrew, Sorry I didn't get round to answering sooner. I hope you're well. There are several points to address so I'll try to be a bit organised and group things so as to try not to forget anything. // // 1. Paddy on the Turnpike. I see you already put in my changes to the transcription. I like your proposal for the Z field; I've just now updated it that way along with a few other minor tweaks (the double "G2 Bd" fragment that I mentioned below; added a coda, ...). // 2. I broadly agree with you about the pros and cons of notational complexity. But I think there are other resources with simple scores, and I don't think it's a problem if the transcriber feels like writing a more complex or involved version. I'm glad you approve anyway about my changes to the bar structure. // 3. My preference for writing reels with quarter notes instead of half notes is probably a bit quirky, but I don't think it's a problem either really. I think this choice is defensible, despite its quirkiness. // 4. Email - my email is [firstname]_[surname] at yahoo.fr . I'd be happy for you to write to me there. // 5. Track listing for the recording - I noticed recently there is one on the UGA Bron media archives web page (bmac.libs.uga.edu), even though it doesn't give the timings, it's still better than nothing. // 6. Did you get around to looking at my version of the Fidel Martin recording of St Anne's reel? I put it on tunearch a few days ago. I'd be happy to hear your thoughts on it. In particular, after a little more careful listening, my opinion is now that FM was playing a fiddle tuned one whole note down from the standard tuning. So I think it would be best for our Paddy On The Turnpike transcription to be shifted down a whole tone, along with a note about this nonstandard tuning. (As I did for my transcription of FM's St Anne's reel.) Alternately it could be left as is in G, and simply have different note about the tuning. //


Best, Malcolm

posted 161 days ago
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Sorry, typo, I should have written Paddy On The Turnpike, not Paddy On The Rake, in my previous message.

I had another listen to the recording. I may want to make a few other tweaks to your score too. Maybe at some point I'll do something along the lines of what I did just now for St Anne's Reel. There is one issue in your version though that you may wish to fix yourself. In the middle of the B part you have "dBcA BGAF|G2 Bd G2 Bd". But FM only plays that "G2 Bd" fragment once. I'd write it my way, with semiquavers, like this: "[M:5/4]e(dBd) gagg dBcA BGAF G2Bd | egfa ... " Anyway. Sorry to bother you with all this. KR, Malcolm

posted 161 days ago
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Hi Andrew, just thought you may be interested. I took your transcription of the Fidel Martin setting of Paddy On The Rake and rearranged the meter and the bars. It didn't take very long, I only changed these two things; I made no changes to the notes. My way is how I see the phrase structure of this setting. KR, Malcolm

X:1 T:Paddy on the Turnpike [1] M:C| L:1/16 N:From an August 1, 1966, field recording of the playing of Fidel N:Martin (1891-1976) of Berlin N.H., originally from Rogersville, NB, recorded N:by folklorist Art Rosenbaum. Martin, a WWI veteran, had a repertory that N:consisted of Acadian, Irish, American and French-Canadian tunes. D: https://bmac.libs.uga.edu/index.php/Detail/objects/331630 F:UGA Brown Media Archives: identifier artrosen_00180 (Track 3 -29:03 of the tape) Z:Transcribed by Andrew Kuntz K:G GE||SDGDG G=FGG BGdG eGdG|DE=FG FEFF D-=FcF dFcF| DGG=F {GF}G2GA Bdef g-fgg|[M:3/4] dBcA BcAF G2GE| [M:C|]DGDG G=FGG "*"BGdG eGdG|DE=FG FE(F/E/F) D-=FcF dFcF| DGG=F {GF}G2GA "**"Bdef g2{a}ge|[M:3/4]dBcc BdAF G2Bd | [M:C|]egfa gfgg bgdg bgdg|eaea feff afdf afdf| egfa {a}g-f(g/f/g) bgdg bgdg| e(dBd) gagg dBcA BGAF|[M:2/4] G2Bd G2Bd | egfa gfgg bgdg bgdd|eaea {fg}feff afdf afdf| egfa (g/a/g/f/)gg bgdg bgdg|[M:5/4]e(dBd) gage dBcA (B/c/A/B/)AF .Gz GES|| P:Substitution "*"BddB eBdB||"**"Bdef gf(g/f/g)||

posted 161 days ago
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Hi Andrew, So. I made a transcription with a few notes and added it to the entry. Happy to hear any comments you have about it. KR, Malcolm

posted 169 days ago
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Hi, do you happen to know if there's a track listing for that half hour recording of Fidel Martin? There's a lot of good stuff in there! https://bmac.libs.uga.edu/Detail/objects/331630

posted 169 days ago
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I'm based in France. I added just a little info to my profile here - a link to my profile on thesession.org. https://thesession.org/members/40345

posted 170 days ago
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Hi Andrew,

Thanks very much for your speedy reply.

Let me just take the moment to say what a great resource this site is - and to thank you for your work on it.

I believe it's in C because I'm a fiddler myself and it seems to me I can hear the open strings which have slightly different timbres. It sounds like it's in C too, and I don't think it's an artefact of the recording or the tuning of the fiddle. And after another little listen I still don't think there should be those sharps. I reckon Fidel Martin, being isolated as you say, had his own ways of doing things. I really like this version because of these unusual idiosyncrasies - it's in C not D, and the "half turn" using a whole tone step at the bottom.

I have a fair few things on my list at the moment, but one of these days, perhaps in a week or two, I mean to go ahead and make the changes as you suggest. I think I prefer posting a separate ABC - I'll base it off yours though, that will give me a valuable start for things.

KR

Malcolm

posted 170 days ago
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Hi Andrew, A couple of comments about your transcription of St Anne's reel as played by Fidel Martin. https://tunearch.org/wiki/St._Anne's_Reel Firstly I don't think the sharps in bars 20 and 28 are correct. Secondly, I think the whole thing should be one tone lower, in C, not in D. Not sure what the correct next step is - as it's a wiki I could make changes myself to your transcription but maybe you'd prefer I didn't? KR Malcolm