GB2425588A - Flue condensation trap - Google Patents

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GB2425588A
GB2425588A GB0606499A GB0606499A GB2425588A GB 2425588 A GB2425588 A GB 2425588A GB 0606499 A GB0606499 A GB 0606499A GB 0606499 A GB0606499 A GB 0606499A GB 2425588 A GB2425588 A GB 2425588A
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    • FMECHANICAL ENGINEERING; LIGHTING; HEATING; WEAPONS; BLASTING
    • F24HEATING; RANGES; VENTILATING
    • F24HFLUID HEATERS, e.g. WATER OR AIR HEATERS, HAVING HEAT-GENERATING MEANS, e.g. HEAT PUMPS, IN GENERAL
    • F24H8/00Fluid heaters characterised by means for extracting latent heat from flue gases by means of condensation
    • F24H8/006Means for removing condensate from the heater
    • FMECHANICAL ENGINEERING; LIGHTING; HEATING; WEAPONS; BLASTING
    • F24HEATING; RANGES; VENTILATING
    • F24HFLUID HEATERS, e.g. WATER OR AIR HEATERS, HAVING HEAT-GENERATING MEANS, e.g. HEAT PUMPS, IN GENERAL
    • F24H9/00Details
    • F24H9/0005Details for water heaters
    • F24H9/0036Dispositions against condensation of combustion products
    • YGENERAL TAGGING OF NEW TECHNOLOGICAL DEVELOPMENTS; GENERAL TAGGING OF CROSS-SECTIONAL TECHNOLOGIES SPANNING OVER SEVERAL SECTIONS OF THE IPC; TECHNICAL SUBJECTS COVERED BY FORMER USPC CROSS-REFERENCE ART COLLECTIONS [XRACs] AND DIGESTS
    • Y02TECHNOLOGIES OR APPLICATIONS FOR MITIGATION OR ADAPTATION AGAINST CLIMATE CHANGE
    • Y02BCLIMATE CHANGE MITIGATION TECHNOLOGIES RELATED TO BUILDINGS, e.g. HOUSING, HOUSE APPLIANCES OR RELATED END-USER APPLICATIONS
    • Y02B30/00Energy efficient heating, ventilation or air conditioning [HVAC]

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Abstract

A flue system includes a flue 14, a sump 13 and a condensate trap or collector 20 located between the two. The trap is made of a non-corrodible or corrosion-resistant material and directs liquid collected therein to drainage means. The material may be a chemically-inert synthetic plastic such as glass-filled polyamide. A shallow dish-shaped member 21 sloping down to a central aperture 22 may be included in the trap. The central aperture is connected to a drainage outlet 29. The trap may be used in a condensing boiler with a combustion chamber 10, heat exchanger 11 and flue passage 12.

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Flue Condensation Trap This invention relates to a flue condensation trap
for use in conjunction with a condensing boiler.
A condensing boiler produces condensate in a heat-exchanger section, latent heat of vapour in the combustion gases being given up to the fluid in the heating system; and also in flue system, as the gases from the burner further expand and cool and preheat the combustion air in a concentric feed whilst themselves being cooled.
Flue gases contain water vapour, and combustion product gases such as SO2 and CO2 The flue itself is usually of aluminium or plastics, and condensed water contains dissolved flue gases and is therefore acidic. The condensate does not react with the flue walls, but tends to run down into the sump which is usually aluminium or stainless steel, and therefore vulnerable to acid corrosion.
It is thus desirable to avoid run down of condensate into the sump, and it is accordingly an object of the invention to provide apparatus for preventing the condensate from collecting in the sump.
According to the invention, a trap or capture device is located between the flue and the sump, which is of non-corrodible or corrosion-resistant material and is adapted to direct liquid collected therein to drainage means.
The trap or collector is advantageously of a chemically inert synthetic plastics material such as a glass-filled polyamide, e.g. containing 30% glass fibre by weight, or a polyolefin such as polypropylene.
The trap or collector is preferably adapted to extend over the sump below the flue, and may comprise a shallow dish-shaped member with a central aperture which is connected to a drainage outlet.
Provision is preferably also made, in addition to catching condensation from the flue stack, to allow condensation from the heat exchanger to enter the drainage outlet. This may be achieved by a clearance being provided below the dish-shaped member so that such condensate from the heat exchanger can drain down on inclined floor below the heat exchanger towards the flue, and pass below the collector into the drainage outlet.
The trap or collector may comprise, in addition to the shallow dishshaped part, a semi-cylindrical wall or baffle about one half-circular edge, and provided with a locating recess, which forms a step or bulge on the inner surface of the wall or baffle, to cooperate with a matching protrusion in the sump.
The collector may also have a downwardly extending tubular stub, which may be provided with radial fins, below the central aperture and adapted to locate in a boss and centralise the collector in the floor of the sump, which provides the drainage aperture.
A preferred embodiment of boiler and flue arrangement, with a flue condensate trap according to the invention, will now be described with reference to the accompanying drawings, wherein:- Figure 1 is a diagrammatic sectional view of a part of a heat exchanger and associated flue, incorporating a flue condensate trap according to the invention; Figure 2 is an enlarged detail view showing the lower part of the flue stack, showing the condensate trap in more detail; Figure 3 is a perspective view of the condensate trap or collector used in Figures 1 and2; and Figure 4 is an exploded perspective view showing the assembly comprising the flue stack, trap and sump structure.
As shown in the drawings, a condensing boiler includes a combustion chamber 10, a heat exchanger 11, flue passage 12 below the heat exchanger leading to a sump l3andafluestackl4.
Hot gases produced by combustion of a fuel, such as oil or natural gas in the combustion chamber 10, are drawn down via passages 15 through a heat exchange body 16 to the flue passage 12.
Heat distributing medium such as water to be circulated from the boiler after heating is drawn in through inlet 17 and circulated through cooling jacket spaces 18 where it forms a heating medium for circulation from the boiler installation.
Heating of the circulated water in spaces 18, cools the combustion gases so that water condenses out of the gases and runs down into the passage 12. This water is acidic as it has dissolved in it acid oxides such as SO2 and CO2 which are produced in the combustion stage. The condensate is this highly corrosive, particularly but not exclusively, to iron and steel. The passage 12 has a floor which slopes down towards the sump to allow the condensate to run down to the sump.
The flue gases pass along the passage 12 and then rise up the flue stack 14, cooling further as they do so partially due to adiabatic cooling, and partially due to conduction to the air-cooled walls of the stack, and vent to atmosphere from the top of the stack.
This further cooling allows further condensation to occur, and the condensate runs down the inner surface of the stack 14 into the sump 13.
In accordance with the invention, a condensate trap 20 or catcher is provided in the sump, below the lower end of the stack 14. This trap 20 comprises a shallow dished member 21, which slopes down to a central aperture 22.
The member 21 has a circular rim, half of which is exposed and faces towards the passage 12 to allow flue gasses to access the bottom of the stack 14. The other half of the rim carries a semi-cylindrical wall or baffle 23, which prevents contact by the flue gasses with the outer wall of the sump 13. The wall 23 is formed with a locating step 24, which forms a projection into the member 21, and a recess to the outer face of the wall 23 and member 21. This cooperates with a projection 25 on the inside of the wall of the sump, which serves to locate the trap in the sump below the flue stack 14.
The dish-shaped member carries on its underside a downwardly projecting tubular stub 26, which is formed with locating fins 27, which enters and protrudes down from a drainage aperture 28 formed in the floor of the sump 13, within a boss 29. The fins 26 rest on the floor of the sump and create a clearance between the underside of the member 21 and the floor of the sump and centralise the trap in the sump, so that condensate running down the floor of the sump can enter the drainage aperture 28.
The trap or collector 20, and the boss 29 defining the drainage aperture are advantageously formed of a chemically inert plastics material, such as a glass fibre filled polyamide, e.g. with 30% glass fibre by weight a polyolefin, i.e. polyethylene or polypropylene. These parts prevent the acidic condensate from contacting or collecting on surfaces of metallic especially ferrous parts which might be susceptible to chemical attack or corrosion due to being contacted with acid containing water.
Within the scope of the invention, the shape and configuration of the parts forming the trap may be varied as desired or necessary, for example to fit in different embodiments of flue construction.

Claims (9)

  1. Claims 1. A flue condensation trap in a flue system including a flue and a
    sump, wherein in order to prevent condensate from collecting in the sump, a trap or collector device is located between the flue and the sump which is of non-corrodible or corrosion-resistant material and is adapted to direct liquid collected therein to drainage means.
  2. 2. A trap according to claim 1, wherein the trap or collector is of a chemically inert-synthetic plastics material.
  3. 3. A trap according to claim 2, wherein the plastics material is a glassfilled polyamide.
  4. 4. A trap according to any preceding claim which extends over the sump below the flue and comprises a shallow dish shaped member with a central aperture which is connected to a drainage outlet.
  5. 5. A trap according to claim 4, wherein a clearance is provided below the dish shaped member whereby condensate from a heat exchanger can drain down an inclined floor between the heat exchanger towards the flow and pass below the trap or collector into the drainage outlet.
  6. 6. A trap according to claim 4, wherein the collector comprises, in addition to the shallow dish-shaped part, a semi-cylindrical wall or baffle about one half circular edge, the wall being provided with a locating recess, which forms a step or bulge on the inner surface of the wall or baffle to cooperate with a matching protrusion in the sump.
  7. 7. A trap according to claim 6, wherein the collector further has a downwardly extending tubular stub, below the central aperture and adapted to locate in a boss on the floor of the sump which provides the drainage aperture.
  8. 8. A trap according to claim 7, wherein the tubular stub is provided with radial fins to centralise the component within the sump outlet.
  9. 9. A flue installation comprising a flue passage and a flue stack, provided with a flue condensation trap according to any one of claims 1 to 8.
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GB2433580B (en) * 2005-12-23 2012-01-25 Baxi Spa Device for collecting condensate or rain water within the interior of a gas boiler
NL2007923C2 (en) * 2011-12-05 2013-06-10 Jmk Heating B V Condensate drain pan.
GB2510660A (en) * 2012-10-30 2014-08-13 Andrew Dennis Patrick Ging Boiler fluid leakage receptacle arrangements
DE102017204028A1 (en) * 2017-03-10 2018-09-13 Robert Bosch Gmbh Heat exchange unit
DE102018117851A1 (en) * 2018-07-24 2019-08-14 Viessmann Werke Gmbh & Co Kg boiler

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GB2184827A (en) * 1985-11-15 1987-07-01 Smith Corp A O Condensate discharge device for combustion apparatus
EP0244724A2 (en) * 1986-04-30 1987-11-11 Jacob Plein-Wagner Söhne Steinzeugwarenfabrik KG Condensation receptacle to be placed at the bottom section of a chimney
DE19533649A1 (en) * 1995-09-12 1997-03-13 Wienerberger Systemschornstein Plinth to support inner pipe of chimney, with condensation drain
DE29807361U1 (en) * 1998-04-23 1998-09-24 Stiebel Eltron Gmbh & Co Kg, 37603 Holzminden Heater
US6527005B2 (en) * 2001-05-14 2003-03-04 Radon Control, Inc. Condensate bypass apparatus

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GB2433580B (en) * 2005-12-23 2012-01-25 Baxi Spa Device for collecting condensate or rain water within the interior of a gas boiler
NL2007923C2 (en) * 2011-12-05 2013-06-10 Jmk Heating B V Condensate drain pan.
EP2602568A2 (en) 2011-12-05 2013-06-12 JMK Heating B.V. Condensate drain pan
GB2510660A (en) * 2012-10-30 2014-08-13 Andrew Dennis Patrick Ging Boiler fluid leakage receptacle arrangements
GB2510660B (en) * 2012-10-30 2015-07-29 Andrew Dennis Patrick Ging Boiler fluid receptacle arrangements
DE102017204028A1 (en) * 2017-03-10 2018-09-13 Robert Bosch Gmbh Heat exchange unit
DE102018117851A1 (en) * 2018-07-24 2019-08-14 Viessmann Werke Gmbh & Co Kg boiler

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