| When Tamaki first appeared I thought, "Oh she's a newbie that is for fanservice." She wasn't too bad at first and when the Rekka stuff happened, I thought she had potential. There seemed to be some sparks of life in her character during that arc. But that final fight between Rekka and Shinra annoyed me due to her fanservice ways. Now, it feels like her character is just inserted for cheap fanservice moments instead of being a real character of substance. When Arthur and Shinra were getting trained I hoped that we'd see Tamaki finally do something, but she didn't. When she finally got to fight, she solved things by her fanservice ways and Iris was the one who truly saved the day. I want to like her, but I find her boring and useless for this show. If she isn't here, then the show would be the same. If you read the manga, does she get better or is she only used for fanservice moments and that's it? |
| Na, she's a gag character. Like Blair in Soul Eater. |
Oh...well that is disappointing then. |
| Do you really expect female characters to be good written in shounen like Fire Force?Sorry, it's not Gintama or HxH for you. |
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| manga reader here yes the not so recent story arc even showed a backstory of her and she got a power up too through training but the fruits of her character development on that arc is yet to be shown in the most latest story arc though |
Zenet said: Do you really expect female characters to be good written in shounen like Fire Force?Sorry, it's not Gintama or HxH for you. Maki is pretty cool tho, Tamaki on the other hand.. |
HaarWyvern said: Zenet said: Do you really expect female characters to be good written in shounen like Fire Force?Sorry, it's not Gintama or HxH for you. Maki is pretty cool tho, Tamaki on the other hand.. Maki is 1/3 cool, 1/3 cute, 1/3 fan-service.Tamaki is 3/3 fan-service. |
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-GilgaSmash- said: Zenet said: Do you really expect female characters to be good written in shounen like Fire Force?Sorry, it's not Gintama or HxH for you. Does hxh even have female characters ? Literally can only remember biscuit and pitou and none of them are amazing tho they are pretty cool Pitou is not female. Canary,Machi,Melody,Palm,Cheadle,Menchi, Neon, Pakunoda,Ponzu say hi |
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Zenet said: -GilgaSmash- said: Does hxh even have female characters ? Literally can only remember biscuit and pitou and none of them are amazing tho they are pretty cool Pitou is not female. Canary,Machi,Melody,Palm,Cheadle,Menchi, Neon, Pakunoda,Ponzu say hi dont forget Krueger, Biscuit. She is a f*cking beast but a caring mom in the inside aw. |
| I'm fine with her as a gag "character" honestly. Turning her into something slightly more elaborate would even seem somewhat odd. |
| Well, that was the 1st controversy unfairly pointed to this anime, but what is seen in every shounen: Japan is a conservative sexist culture. Shounen is still in the level of 50's "The Fellers" club fo Tubby, where girls with really important role are forbidden. In typical shounen, you can find girls or women in the Nakama, but only in 3rd position (Naruto) or more far, and always a lot less devenloped characters. Some exceptions (when the shounen allows romance) is made to the hero's partner, and mostly being a Damsel in Distress. Nothing can be done so early since even in the so called "liberal" america, they just made 1 good and no sexist heroine movie a few years ago. |
Rob7Jan 4, 2020 8:30 PM
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-GilgaSmash- said: Zenet said: Pitou is not female. Canary,Machi,Melody,Palm,Cheadle,Menchi, Neon, Pakunoda,Ponzu say hi Honestly the only ones i remember are mid ... sorry Palm, ponzu and pakunoda? Cmon man. You cannot hold them on a higher plate than shonen women ... and i still don't think melody is female ngl. Again they are not BAD especially compared to fox girl over here but they ain't anything special A shonen with good female character MAYBE is one piece (tho i have only seen 64 eps for now but nami is a good character tho i hated her in the beggining) Naruto females are... just bad Jojo does not have female characters Did not watch bleach or gintama YET One of the Jojo stories involve only women. It just hasn't been animated yet. |
-GilgaSmash- said: Zenet said: Pitou is not female. Canary,Machi,Melody,Palm,Cheadle,Menchi, Neon, Pakunoda,Ponzu say hi Honestly the only ones i remember are mid ... sorry Palm, ponzu and pakunoda? Cmon man. You cannot hold them on a higher plate than shonen women ... and i still don't think melody is female ngl. Again they are not BAD especially compared to fox girl over here but they ain't anything special A shonen with good female character MAYBE is one piece (tho i have only seen 64 eps for now but nami is a good character tho i hated her in the beggining) Naruto females are... just bad Jojo does not have female characters Did not watch bleach or gintama YET >jojo doesn't have female characters Looks like someone forgot Lisa Lisa. And the protagonist of part 6 IS a female character and one of the best female lead. Also Gintama definitely has the best female cast. One Piece, HxH and Black Clover, Kimetsu no Yaiba and Jujutsu Kaisen also has good written female characters. And bleach has good ones and also bad ones too. |
| Tamaki does get some development I guess (basically she wants to get stronger and trains for like 2 chapters or so. That's all) but yeah she's mostly fanservice. But hey Maki and Hibana are cool. |
ARK-13Jan 10, 2020 11:45 AM
| Quick rag on her in the anime: I'm not really against fanservice, but Tamaki's tits just end up in someone's hands even in the middle of serious fights. It's cringey. In one episode, the girls were going to cook dinner and somehow she ended up in only an apron with no explanation. I thought that was funny. The Rookie Firefighter game parts just made me roll my eyes. |
towelgirl21 said: Quick rag on her in the anime: I'm not really against fanservice, but Tamaki's tits just end up in someone's hands even in the middle of serious fights. It's cringey. In one episode, the girls were going to cook dinner and somehow she ended up in only an apron with no explanation. I thought that was funny. The Rookie Firefighter game parts just made me roll my eyes. Someone in the thread mentioned Ezra being a great female character and I'd agree with them. While Fairy Tail does have a lot of fanservice it feels more seamlessly done than what we get here. Everyone provides fanservice in Fairy Tail, including the guys. But in Fire Force it's just Tamaki and that's all her character is for. It feels forced and cringey. |
HiddenSilentMe said: towelgirl21 said: Quick rag on her in the anime: I'm not really against fanservice, but Tamaki's tits just end up in someone's hands even in the middle of serious fights. It's cringey. In one episode, the girls were going to cook dinner and somehow she ended up in only an apron with no explanation. I thought that was funny. The Rookie Firefighter game parts just made me roll my eyes. Someone in the thread mentioned Ezra being a great female character and I'd agree with them. While Fairy Tail does have a lot of fanservice it feels more seamlessly done than what we get here. Everyone provides fanservice in Fairy Tail, including the guys. But in Fire Force it's just Tamaki and that's all her character is for. It feels forced and cringey. Been a while since I watched Fairy Tail, and I only saw 38 episodes, but I remember Erza being a badass and wearing hardly any armor. I also remember the guy Gray always ended up with his shirt off and it was hilarious. When Shinra first got to Company 8, there was a camera shot directly down Maki's shirt. Also, we need more shirtless male firefighters. And Vulcan should take off his shirt too. Getting off-topic. Tamaki can fight fires in her bikini, this is anime, but if she's a lame character she's lame no matter how much clothing she takes off. I actually like Maki a lot, and if she starts to dress like this all the time, fine. It would still be fanservice, but she's actually cool. (the image is really big) Thus far, Tamaki has just been there to be accidentally groped or end up sitting on someone's face, etc. I think it's funny occasionally, but in the middle the fight between Shinra and Rekka, she killed the mood. |
| Honestly, Tamaki is such a bad character. Let's ignore the fact that I don't like female fanservice at all. You can be overly sexualized and still be a decent character. Tamaki is not. She's just there to be annoying and angry like a chihuahua. She blames people for "boob accidents", calls them perverts and beats the shit out of them. Does she think everyone just wanna rape her or something? What is her problem? And yeah, I know there are a lot of girls like her in anime, I could never understand why people are so into them. |
Wanting better for a character isn't whining... |
| He's not whining. Stop defending Fire Force's poor writing. |
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| If you expect Tamaki to become a powerhouse like Shinra or Arthur, then not really. Tamaki's a gag character like Blair from Soul Eater (like some user pointed out above) and her ability is more defense-based, with her special characteristic being her extreme resistance to heat, so don't go expecting her to pull the crazy shit characters like Shinra do. Now, if you mean her character becoming more proactive in fights and having some development, then kinda. She has one training arc later (that will probably be adapted in the last episodes of the second season) and helps defeating a troublesome antagonist later too (this will likely appear in a future third season). Likewise, the fanservice becomes more toned down, only appearing in comical scenes, and there are no situations like the Rekka one again as far as I can remember. |
Rob7 said: In typical shounen, you can find girls or women in the Nakama, but only in 3rd position (Naruto) or more far, and always a lot less devenloped characters. I dunno if you watched naruto to the end of not, but there are quite a few worthy female characters, with good backstory too. Also, the strongest villain in the end is a woman. Another good example is one piece, there are many female characters with great backstory, some strong some weak some good some evil, recent examples I can think of being Nami, Robin, Big Mom. Also Vivi was a major character back in the alabasta arc. There's many more shounen with great female characters. Only super low budget generic dime a dozen shounen fail at that. As for Tamaki, she is a gag character. Her pyrokinetic power is to end up in a lewd position. There's not much else to think about there. She will probably get a story arc sometime, maybe this season maybe next. It seems there is a lot of backstory ries this season (joker, maki, and Arthur for instance). And speaking of shallow flat characters, hi Arthur. You're just a delusional idiot whose power is being delusional and stupid. But even though Arthur is a silly character we still laugh at it. In fact this entire anime seems to be a mix of surreal stuff and comedic stuff. Every character gets some of this treatment, even Hinawa wearing that bunny outfit and the boys in the calendar. 😂 |
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