RHEL 9 Support for CouchDB #4154

konrad-ohms · 2022-08-23T08:08:21Z

Summary

CouchDB v3.2.2 does not provide RPM packages for Red Hat Enterprise Linux 9 at the moment, https://docs.couchdb.org/en/3.2.2/install/unix.html does not list RHEL 9 as supported as well. The couchdb.repo file points to https://apache.jfrog.io/artifactory/couchdb-rpm which only has el7 and el8.

Desired Behaviour

I would appreciate having RPM based precompiled packages for RHEL 9 hosts / ubi9-minimal container (released in May 2022).

Possible Solution

Compile on an additional OS during the project build, potentially new Jenkins workers are required (probably CentOS Stream 9 would work as well) or a build inside a container (I guess registry.access.redhat.com/ubi9/ubi might work).

Additional context

I am building a custom CouchDB image based on ubi8-minimal and are planning to upgrade my other projects to ubi9-minimal soon.
CouchDB as of now would fail to install and I would like to have a common base os across my services.
Also, CouchDB on ubi8-minimal gets a lot of Twistlock findings which are not fixed by Red Hat any more (I can provide a scan if necessary).

konrad-ohms · 2022-08-23T08:12:43Z

Not sure if you are still the right contact for that matter, but tagging @wohali as you kindly helped me out last time as well (thanks for that 🙂)
(#2231)

nickva · 2022-08-23T16:16:55Z

We use Rocky Linux for the RHEL 8 "clone" as we don't have access to RHEL paid licenses. It looks like there is a Rocky Linux 9 so we'll try to use that as the RHEL 9 "clone" base https://rockylinux.org/download.

Chances are it will happen for 3.3 only and not for 3.2.x series.

konrad-ohms · 2022-08-23T19:54:12Z

Thanks Nick,
that sounds good to me, having builds for CouchDB v3.x on a RHEL 9 compatible OS should be sufficient in order to package it up for ubi8-minimal. Is there an rough ETA for CouchDB v3.3 yet?

nickva · 2022-08-27T05:22:45Z

Looking at adding an Rockylinux 9 base image in https://github.com/apache/couchdb-pkg it looks like RHEL 9 and its clones do not include the mozjs package(Spidermonkey i.e. our Javascript engine) any longer.

Related issue at RedHat https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1958111

That would complicate and slow down supporting RHEL 9 clones as it seems we'd have to build and maintain our own mozjs RPM. There is a chance EPEL 9 might have it (but so far haven't found it there) or maybe we can find another RPM from Fedora or other RPM based distros which somehow are compatible with RHEL 9 clones.

konrad-ohms · 2022-08-29T04:34:48Z

Okay, I see, that is unfortunate 😕
I guess the RHEL8 rpm will no longer work on RHEL9?

domstorey · 2022-11-17T15:11:35Z

Is there any outlook here for when couch will be supported on RHEL 9? We'd also like to move to ubi9 minimal here.

nickva · 2022-11-17T15:40:57Z

Any chance mozjs91 or other version made their way into EPEL repos? Perhaps we can advise users to use that.

We could be slightly sneaky and depend on polkit and use its private moz78 instance, but that sound like a hack.

Otherwise, we'd have to bundle mozjs just for RHEL 9 (and its clones) and then maintain security patches for it. It might be the we go with eventually, but it's hard to justify spending time it currently.

domstorey · 2022-11-17T16:15:49Z

Does look like mozjs-91 is out there in some forms: https://www.google.com/search?q=mozjs-91+EPEL

eg. https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/mozjs91 & https://ubuntu.pkgs.org/22.04/ubuntu-updates-main-arm64/libmozjs-91-dev_91.10.0-0ubuntu1_arm64.deb.html & http:https://rpms.remirepo.net/rpmphp/zoom.php?rpm=mozjs91

nickva · 2022-11-17T16:30:43Z

Fedora 35 version is probably a good bet

nickva · 2022-11-18T21:18:05Z

Since I mentioned polikit above here what I tried:

% docker run -it rockylinux/rockylinux:9

# yum install polkit-libs -y

# rpm -ql polkit-libs | grep mozjs
/usr/lib64/polkit-1/libmozjs-78.so

So mozjs78 is available there. Too much of a hack for the time being?

Installing mozjs91 from F35 seems to work as well:

% docker run -it rockylinux/rockylinux:9

# yum install wget

# wget https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//packages/mozjs91/91.2.0/1.fc35/x86_64/mozjs91-91.2.0-1.fc35.x86_64.rpm

# rpm -i ./mozjs91-91.2.0-1.fc35.x86_64.rpm

# rpm -ql mozjs91
/usr/lib/.build-id
/usr/lib/.build-id/bc
/usr/lib/.build-id/bc/18c2125dbd7527a2f5423f2452df0ff29d9e2f
/usr/lib64/libmozjs-91.so.0
/usr/lib64/libmozjs-91.so.0.0.0
...

domstorey · 2022-11-21T10:46:44Z

With that dependency installed should we be able to build the couch binaries do you think on the ubi9 base? I noticed that we use runit too, https://packagecloud.io/imeyer/runit?page=2 to build and I couldnt get that too work on ubi9 either :-(

nickva · 2022-11-21T17:10:58Z

ubi9 seems to work as far as installing and resolving dependencies at least:

% docker pull redhat/ubi9
# yum install wget ...
# ldd /usr/lib64/libmozjs-91.so.0
	linux-vdso.so.1 (0x00007fffa9778000)
	libz.so.1 => /lib64/libz.so.1 (0x00007f068cb09000)
	libm.so.6 => /lib64/libm.so.6 (0x00007f068ca2e000)
	libstdc++.so.6 => /lib64/libstdc++.so.6 (0x00007f068c807000)
	libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib64/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x00007f068c7ec000)
	libc.so.6 => /lib64/libc.so.6 (0x00007f068c5e3000)
	/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007f068e79e000)

Not sure about runit. I guess we could use any other daemon supervisor thing instead.

nickva · 2022-11-21T17:31:55Z

One strange thing I noticed is that the above mozj91 doesn't seem to link to libicu. It turns out it was an earlier mozjs 91.2.0 version, the later versions started linking against it and requiring libicu

# wget https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//packages/mozjs91/91.13.0/1.fc35/x86_64/mozjs91-91.13.0-1.fc35.x86_64.rpm
# rpm -i mozjs91-91.13.0-1.fc35.x86_64.rpm
error: Failed dependencies:
	libicui18n.so.69()(64bit) is needed by mozjs91-91.13.0-1.fc35.x86_64
	libicuuc.so.69()(64bit) is needed by mozjs91-91.13.0-1.fc35.x86_64

So if we want to stay current, we are back to building it ourselves and continuously maintaining the build or relying on the hidden polkit libmozjs-78.so version from polkit-libs.

domstorey · 2022-11-22T09:52:04Z

mmm yes, not perfect. Too many hacks will make it difficult next time too and will complicate keeping security updates current on all the dependencies if we are pinned..

nickva · 2022-11-22T15:48:00Z

Agree it's a hack. I think we'll have to return to building it ourselves like we did previously: https://github.com/apache/couchdb-pkg/tree/main/js

Another option is to embed a smaller JS execution engine like QuickJS so we can just vendor it in.

https://bellard.org/quickjs Some benefits over SM: * Small. We're using 6 or so C files vs 700+ SM91 C++ files. * Built with Apache CouchDB as opposed having to maintain a separate SM package, like for RHEL9, for instance, where they dropped support for SM already. (see apache#4154). * Embedding friendly. Designed from ground-up for embedding. SM has been updating the C++ API such that we have to keep copy-pasting new versions of our C++ code every year or so. (see apache#4305). * Easy to modify to accept Spidermonkey 1.8.5 top level functions for map/reduce code so we don't have have to parse the JS, AST trasform it, and then re-compile it. * Configurable runtime feature set - can disable workers, promises and other API and features which may not work well in a backend JS environment. Some users may want more, some may want to disable even Date(time) features to hedge again Spectre-style attacks (spectreattack.com). * Allow granular time (reduction) trackign if we wanted to provide a runtime allowance for each function. * Better sandboxing. Creating a whole JSRuntime takes only 300 microsecond, so we can afford to do that on reset. JSRuntimes cannot share JS data or object between them. For now to make it easy to experiment added it in as a JS "version" enabled at compile time. ``` ./configure --dev --spidermonkey-version quickjs && make ``` Only tested on MacOS and Linux. All `make check` tests pass there. QuickJS Patches: * Disable workers. (Brings in pthread, etc) * Enable spidermonkey 1.8.5 function expression mode

https://bellard.org/quickjs Some benefits over SM: * Small. We're using 6 or so C files vs 700+ SM91 C++ files. * Built with Apache CouchDB as opposed having to maintain a separate SM package, like for RHEL9, for instance, where they dropped support for SM already. (see apache#4154). * Embedding friendly. Designed from ground-up for embedding. SM has been updating the C++ API such that we have to keep copy-pasting new versions of our C++ code every year or so. (see apache#4305). * Easy to modify to accept Spidermonkey 1.8.5 top level functions for map/reduce code so we don't have have to parse the JS, AST trasform it, and then re-compile it. * Configurable runtime feature set - can disable workers, promises and other API and features which may not work well in a backend JS environment. Some users may want more, some may want to disable even Date(time) features to hedge again Spectre-style attacks (spectreattack.com). * Allow granular time (reduction) trackign if we wanted to provide a runtime allowance for each function. * Better sandboxing. Creating a whole JSRuntime takes only 300 microsecond, so we can afford to do that on reset. JSRuntimes cannot share JS data or object between them. * Seems to be faster in preliminary benchmarking with small concurrent VDU and view builds: https://gist.github.com/nickva/ed239651114794ebb138b1f16c5f6758 Looks like 3x faster than SM 1.8.5 and 4x faster than SM 91. For now to make it easy to experiment added it in as a JS "version" enabled at compile time. ``` ./configure --dev --spidermonkey-version quickjs && make ``` Only tested on MacOS and Linux. All `make check` tests pass there. QuickJS Patches: * Disable workers. (Brings in pthread, etc) * Enable spidermonkey 1.8.5 function expression mode

https://bellard.org/quickjs Some benefits over SM: * Small. We're using 6 or so C files vs 700+ SM91 C++ files. * Built with Apache CouchDB as opposed having to maintain a separate SM package, like for RHEL9, for instance, where they dropped support for SM already. (see apache#4154). * Embedding friendly. Designed from ground-up for embedding. SM has been updating the C++ API such that we have to keep copy-pasting new versions of our C++ code every year or so. (see apache#4305). * Easy to modify to accept Spidermonkey 1.8.5 top level functions for map/reduce code so we don't have have to parse the JS, AST trasform it, and then re-compile it. * Configurable runtime feature set - can disable workers, promises and other API and features which may not work well in a backend JS environment. Some users may want more, some may want to disable even Date(time) features to hedge again Spectre-style attacks (spectreattack.com). * Allow granular time (reduction) trackign if we wanted to provide a runtime allowance for each function. * Better sandboxing. Creating a whole JSRuntime takes only 300 microsecond, so we can afford to do that on reset. JSRuntimes cannot share JS data or object between them. * Seems to be faster in preliminary benchmarking with small concurrent VDU and view builds: https://gist.github.com/nickva/ed239651114794ebb138b1f16c5f6758 Results seem promising: - 3x faster than SM 1.8.5 - 4x faster than SM 91 - 6x reduced memory usage per couchjs process (5MB vs 30MB) For now to make it easy to experiment added it in as a JS "version" enabled at compile time. ``` ./configure --dev --spidermonkey-version quickjs && make ``` Only tested on MacOS and Linux. All `make check` tests pass there. QuickJS Patches: * Disable workers. (Brings in pthread, etc) * Enable spidermonkey 1.8.5 function expression mode

https://bellard.org/quickjs https://fuchsia.googlesource.com/third_party/quickjs/ Some benefits over SM: * Small. We're using 6 or so C files vs 700+ SM91 C++ files. * Built with Apache CouchDB as opposed having to maintain a separate SM package, like for RHEL9, for instance, where they dropped support for SM already. (see apache#4154). * Embedding friendly. Designed from ground-up for embedding. SM has been updating the C++ API such that we have to keep copy-pasting new versions of our C++ code every year or so. (see apache#4305). * Easy to modify to accept Spidermonkey 1.8.5 top level functions for map/reduce code so we don't have have to parse the JS, AST trasform it, and then re-compile it. * Configurable runtime feature set - can disable workers, promises and other API and features which may not work well in a backend JS environment. Some users may want more, some may want to disable even Date(time) features to hedge again Spectre-style attacks (spectreattack.com). * Allow granular time (reduction) trackign if we wanted to provide a runtime allowance for each function. * Better sandboxing. Creating a whole JSRuntime takes only 300 microsecond, so we can afford to do that on reset. JSRuntimes cannot share JS data or object between them. * Seems to be faster in preliminary benchmarking with small concurrent VDU and view builds: https://gist.github.com/nickva/ed239651114794ebb138b1f16c5f6758 Results seem promising: - 3x faster than SM 1.8.5 - 4x faster than SM 91 - 6x reduced memory usage per couchjs process (5MB vs 30MB) For now to make it easy to experiment added it in as a JS "version" enabled at compile time. ``` ./configure --dev --spidermonkey-version quickjs && make ``` Only tested on MacOS and Linux. All `make check` tests pass there. QuickJS Patches: * Disable workers. (Brings in pthread, etc) * Enable spidermonkey 1.8.5 function expression mode

https://bellard.org/quickjs https://fuchsia.googlesource.com/third_party/quickjs/ Some benefits over SM: * Small. We're using 6 or so C files vs 700+ SM91 C++ files. * Built with Apache CouchDB as opposed having to maintain a separate SM package, like for RHEL9, for instance, where they dropped support for SM already. (see apache#4154). * Embedding friendly. Designed from ground-up for embedding. SM has been updating the C++ API such that we have to keep copy-pasting new versions of our C++ code every year or so. (see apache#4305). * Easy to modify to accept Spidermonkey 1.8.5 top level functions for map/reduce code so we don't have have to parse the JS, AST trasform it, and then re-compile it. * Configurable runtime feature set - can disable workers, promises and other API and features which may not work well in a backend JS environment. Some users may want more, some may want to disable even Date(time) features to hedge again Spectre-style attacks (spectreattack.com). * Allow granular time (reduction) trackign if we wanted to provide a runtime allowance for each function. * Better sandboxing. Creating a whole JSRuntime takes only 300 microsecond, so we can afford to do that on reset. JSRuntimes cannot share JS data or object between them. * Seems to be faster in preliminary benchmarking with small concurrent VDU and view builds: https://gist.github.com/nickva/ed239651114794ebb138b1f16c5f6758 Results seem promising: - 3x faster than SM 1.8.5 - 4x faster than SM 91 - 6x reduced memory usage per couchjs process (5MB vs 30MB) * Allows compiling JS bytecode ahead of time a C array of bytes. QuickJS can be built alongside spidermonkey and toggled on/off at runtime: ``` ./configure --dev --js-engine=quickjs ``` This makes it the default engine. But spidermonkey can still be set in the config option. ``` [couchdb] js_engine = spidermonkey | quickjs ``` Only tested on MacOS and Linux. All `make check` tests pass there.

https://bellard.org/quickjs https://fuchsia.googlesource.com/third_party/quickjs/ Some benefits over SM: * Small. We're using 6 or so C files vs 700+ SM91 C++ files. * Built with Apache CouchDB as opposed having to maintain a separate SM package, like for RHEL9, for instance, where they dropped support for SM already. (see apache#4154). * Embedding friendly. Designed from ground-up for embedding. SM has been updating the C++ API such that we have to keep copy-pasting new versions of our C++ code every year or so. (see apache#4305). * Easy to modify to accept Spidermonkey 1.8.5 top level functions for map/reduce code so we don't have have to parse the JS, AST trasform it, and then re-compile it. * Configurable runtime feature set - can disable workers, promises and other API and features which may not work well in a backend JS environment. Some users may want more, some may want to disable even Date(time) features to hedge again Spectre-style attacks (spectreattack.com). * Allow granular time (reduction) trackign if we wanted to provide a runtime allowance for each function. * Better sandboxing. Creating a whole JSRuntime takes only 300 microsecond, so we can afford to do that on reset. JSRuntimes cannot share JS data or object between them. * Seems to be faster in preliminary benchmarking with small concurrent VDU and view builds: https://gist.github.com/nickva/ed239651114794ebb138b1f16c5f6758 Results seem promising: - 4x faster than SM 1.8.5 - 5x faster than SM 91 - 6x reduced memory usage per couchjs process (5MB vs 30MB) * Allows compiling JS bytecode ahead of time a C array of bytes. QuickJS can be built alongside spidermonkey and toggled on/off at runtime: ``` ./configure --dev --js-engine=quickjs ``` This makes it the default engine. But spidermonkey can still be set in the config option. ``` [couchdb] js_engine = spidermonkey | quickjs ``` Only tested on MacOS and Linux. All `make check` tests pass there.

https://bellard.org/quickjs Some benefits over SM: * Small. We're using 6 or so C files vs 700+ SM91 C++ files. * Built with Apache CouchDB as opposed having to maintain a separate SM package, like for RHEL9, for instance, where they dropped support for SM already. (see #4154). * Embedding friendly. Designed from ground-up for embedding. SM has been updating the C++ API such that we have to keep copy-pasting new versions of our C++ code every year or so. (see #4305). * Easy to modify to accept Spidermonkey 1.8.5 top level functions for map/reduce code so we don't have have to parse the JS, AST transform it, and then re-compile it. * Configurable runtime feature set - can disable workers, promises and other API and features which may not work well in a backend JS environment. Some users may want more, some may want to disable even Date(time) features to hedge again Spectre-style attacks (spectreattack.com). * Allows granular time (reduction) tracking if we wanted to provide a runtime allowance for each function. * Better sandboxing. Creating a whole JSRuntime takes only 300 microseconds, so we can afford to do that on reset. JSRuntimes cannot share JS data or object between them. * Seems to be faster in preliminary benchmarking with small concurrent VDU and view builds: https://gist.github.com/nickva/ed239651114794ebb138b1f16c5f6758 Results seem promising: - 4x faster than SM 1.8.5 - 5x faster than SM 91 - 6x reduced memory usage per couchjs process (5MB vs 30MB) * Allows compiling JS bytecode ahead of time a C array of bytes. QuickJS can be built alongside Spidermonkey and toggled on/off at runtime: ``` ./configure --dev --js-engine=quickjs ``` This makes it the default engine. But Spidermonkey can still be set in the config option. ``` [couchdb] js_engine = spidermonkey | quickjs ``` To test individual views, without switching the default use the `javascript_quickjs` language in the design docs. To keep using Spidermonkey engine after switching the default, can use `javascript_spidermonkey` language in design docs. However, language selection will reset the view and the view will have to be rebuilt. Tested on MacOS and Linux. All `make check` tests pass there. Issue: #4448

https://bellard.org/quickjs Some benefits over SM: * Small. We're using 6 or so C files vs 700+ SM91 C++ files. * Built with Apache CouchDB as opposed having to maintain a separate SM package, like for RHEL9, for instance, where they dropped support for SM already. (see #4154). * Embedding friendly. Designed from ground-up for embedding. SM has been updating the C++ API such that we have to keep copy-pasting new versions of our C++ code every year or so. (see #4305). * Easy to modify to accept Spidermonkey 1.8.5 top level functions for map/reduce code so we don't have have to parse the JS, AST transform it, and then re-compile it. * Configurable runtime feature set - can disable workers, promises and other API and features which may not work well in a backend JS environment. Some users may want more, some may want to disable even Date(time) features to hedge again Spectre-style attacks (spectreattack.com). * Allows granular time (reduction) tracking if we wanted to provide a runtime allowance for each function. * Better sandboxing. Creating a whole JSRuntime takes only 300 microseconds, so we can afford to do that on reset. JSRuntimes cannot share JS data or object between them. * Seems to be faster in preliminary benchmarking with small concurrent VDU and view builds: https://gist.github.com/nickva/ed239651114794ebb138b1f16c5f6758 Results seem promising: - 4x faster than SM 1.8.5 - 5x faster than SM 91 - 6x reduced memory usage per couchjs process (5MB vs 30MB) * Allows compiling JS bytecode ahead of time a C array of bytes. QuickJS can be built alongside Spidermonkey and toggled on/off at runtime: ``` ./configure --dev --js-engine=quickjs ``` This makes it the default engine. But Spidermonkey can still be set in the config option. ``` [couchdb] js_engine = spidermonkey | quickjs ``` To test individual views, without switching the default use the `javascript_quickjs` language in the design docs. To keep using Spidermonkey engine after switching the default, can use `javascript_spidermonkey` language in design docs. However, language selection will reset the view and the view will have to be rebuilt. It's also possible to build without Spidermonkey support completely by using: ``` ./configure --disable-spidermonkey ``` Issue: #4448

Some benefits over Mozilla Spidermonkey: * Small. We're using 6 or so C files vs 700+ SM91 C++ files. * Built with Apache CouchDB as opposed having to maintain a separate SM package, like for RHEL9, for instance, where they dropped support for SM already [1]. * Embedding friendly. Designed from ground-up for embedding. SM has been updating the C++ API such that we have to keep copy-pasting new versions of our C++ code every year or so [2]. * Easy to modify to accept Spidermonkey 1.8.5 top level functions for map/reduce code so we don't have have to parse the JS, AST transform it, and then re-compile it. * Better sandboxing. Creating a whole JSRuntime takes only 300 microseconds, so we can afford to do that on reset. JSRuntimes cannot share JS data or object between them. * Seems to be faster in preliminary benchmarking with small concurrent VDU and view builds: https://gist.github.com/nickva/ed239651114794ebb138b1f16c5f6758 Results seem promising: - 4x faster than SM 1.8.5 - 5x faster than SM 91 - 6x reduced memory usage per couchjs process (5MB vs 30MB) * Allows compiling JS bytecode ahead of time a C array of bytes. QuickJS can be built alongside Spidermonkey and toggled on/off at runtime: ``` ./configure --dev --js-engine=quickjs ``` This makes it the default engine. But Spidermonkey can still be set in the config option. ``` [couchdb] js_engine = spidermonkey | quickjs ``` To test individual views, without switching the default use the `javascript_quickjs` language in the design docs. To keep using Spidermonkey engine after switching the default, can use `javascript_spidermonkey` language in design docs. However, language selection will reset the view and the view will have to be rebuilt. It's also possible to build without Spidermonkey support completely by using: ``` ./configure --disable-spidermonkey ``` Issue: #4448 [1] #4154 [2] #4305

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