Added coupling of GOCART aerosols with the RRTMG scheme and the Thompson scheme #910
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ChunxiZhang-NOAA
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andrewgettelman,
climbfuji,
SamuelTrahanNOAA,
grantfirl,
mzhangw,
panll and
mkavulich
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two more files needed to modified are GFS_typedefs.F90 and GFS_typedefs.meta at ccpp/data. Please also noted that the files needed to added and changed for regression tests for rad_grt_atm_aerosols. |
@AnningCheng-NOAA Please check here for GF_typedefs.* files. And check here for regression tests related changes. |
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looks good to me. Approved |
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reopened |
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I have put the passing aerosol mixing ratio before calling "aetaer" in GFS_rrtmg_pre.F90. The idea is to obtain the value the earliest in the physical processes, so the same value for all processes. |
Sounds good. Please let me know when your code is ready. |
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Chunxi,
the code is ready now
at /scratch2/NCEPDEV/climate/Anning.Cheng/ufs-weather-model/FV3/ccpp/physics/physics
GFGFS_rrtmg_pre.meta
GFS_rrtmg_pre.meta
There is no changes needed in *PBL* files.
Anning
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I have put the passing aerosol mixing ratio before calling "aetaer" in
GFS_rrtmg_pre.F90. The idea is to obtain the value the earliest in the
physical processes, so the same value for all processes.
Sounds good. Please let me know when your code is ready.
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There is a typo in the last Email. GFS_rrtmg_pre.F90 instead of
GFGFS_rrtmg_pre.meta.
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the code is ready now
at /scratch2/NCEPDEV/climate/Anning.Cheng/ufs-weather-model/FV3/ccpp/physics/physics
GFGFS_rrtmg_pre.meta
GFS_rrtmg_pre.meta
There is no changes needed in *PBL* files.
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> I have put the passing aerosol mixing ratio before calling "aetaer" in
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> physical processes, so the same value for all processes.
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Looks good by passing the aerosol mixing ratios to radiation before "setaer". Approved again. I am happy to take any suggestions improving the code. |
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removed this from In progress - a PR has been submitted
in CCPP v6 public release
| @@ -96,7 +98,7 @@ subroutine GFS_phys_time_vary_init ( | |||
| real(kind_phys), intent(in) :: ozpl(:,:,:), h2opl(:,:,:) | |||
| integer, intent(inout) :: jindx1_aer(:), jindx2_aer(:), iindx1_aer(:), iindx2_aer(:) | |||
| real(kind_phys), intent(inout) :: ddy_aer(:), ddx_aer(:) | |||
| real(kind_phys), intent(in) :: aer_nm(:,:,:) | |||
| real(kind_phys), intent(out) :: aer_nm(:,:,:) | |||
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Is aer_nm initialized in this subroutine unconditionally? If not, the intent should be inout.
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@ChunxiZhang-NOAA Since this is on your fork, could you please change this intent to inout here and in the metadata if you agree with Anning and I?
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Changed intent of aer_nm to out. Only initialized this variable with 1.e-20 conditionally in this subroutine.
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The best practice is inout. For now, out seems work too.
| dimensions = (horizontal_dimension,vertical_layer_dimension,number_of_aerosol_tracers_MG) | ||
| type = real | ||
| kind = kind_phys | ||
| intent = in | ||
| intent = out |
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Reminder to change intent to inout if this variable is not unconditionally initialized in the subroutine.
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Changed it to out.
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Looks good to me. I'm waiting to approve once my minor question is answered/addressed. |
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Grant, please change it to input.
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Looks good to me. I'm waiting to approve once my minor question is
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| endif | ||
| ntrcaer = ntrcaerm | ||
| call read_aerdata (me,master,iflip,idate,errmsg,errflg) | ||
| else if(iaermdl ==2 ) then |
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The default iaermdl hardwired in physparam is 0, i.e.,seasonal global OPAC aerosol, climatology. Did you consider using iaermdl as a namelist control variable?
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It looks like coupled gocart is not initialized since iaerclm=.false. and iaermdl =0 by current config.
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iaermdl is controlled by namelist option iaer.
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Does anyone know whether it has been decided if this needs to go in the upcoming release or not? |
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Not for P8C. It is for P8.1. |
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| @@ -589,6 +594,10 @@ subroutine mp_thompson_run(ncol, nlev, con_g, con_rd, & | |||
| kde = nlev | |||
| kme = nlev | |||
| kte = nlev | |||
| if (reset_diag3d) then | |||
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GOCART requires instantaneous three-dimensional liquid water (pfl_lsan) and ice fluxes (pfi_lsan). These quantities must be reset to zero at each physics time step. They should not be reset at the same time as Thompson's extended diagnostic quantities.
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@rmontuoro Has this problem been fixed? The PR is ready for merge, but I haven't seen any confirmation from you yet.
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This problem was solved. We removed reset_diag3d. pfl_lsan and pfi_lsan are instantaneous variables.
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If using instantaneous values, the results are totally different from
GFDL, which can be seen from Kate's experiments from version 4 and
version 5. This is why I said this approach is unphysical (Version 6/7
does the exact thing as setting ext_diag to true ). I have added Kate to
this loop. I would like Kate to confirm.
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Computation of Thompson's 3D liquid water and ice fluxes need to be
revised.
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In physics/module_mp_thompson.F90
<#910 (comment)>:
> @@ -1482,6 +1485,8 @@ SUBROUTINE mp_gt_driver(qv, qc, qr, qi, qs, qg, ni, nr, nc, &
qg(i,k,j) = qg1d(k)
ni(i,k,j) = ni1d(k)
nr(i,k,j) = nr1d(k)
+ pfi_lsan(i,k) = pfi_lsan(i,k) + pfil1(k)*rho(k)*dz1d(k)
Liquid water and ice fluxes are time derivatives and cannot be
accumulated. If average values of pfi_lsan and pfl_lsan are required,
accumulation must be performed using increments, not derivatives (*e.g.*,
pfill1(k)*rho(k)*dz1d(k)*dt), then output fluxes computed dividing by the
total time interval (dt1+dt2+...).
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In physics/mp_thompson.F90
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> @@ -589,6 +594,10 @@ subroutine mp_thompson_run(ncol, nlev, con_g, con_rd, &
kde = nlev
kme = nlev
kte = nlev
+ if (reset_diag3d) then
GOCART requires instantaneous three-dimensional liquid water (pfl_lsan)
and ice fluxes (pfi_lsan). These quantities must be reset to zero at each
physics time step. They should not be reset at the same time as Thompson's
extended diagnostic quantities.
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In physics/mp_thompson.F90
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> @@ -589,6 +594,10 @@ subroutine mp_thompson_run(ncol, nlev, con_g, con_rd, &
kde = nlev
kme = nlev
kte = nlev
+ if (reset_diag3d) then
GOCART requires instantaneous three-dimensional liquid water (pfl_lsan)
and ice fluxes (pfi_lsan). These quantities must be reset to zero at each
physics time step. They should not be reset at the same time as Thompson's
extended diagnostic quantities.
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@AnningCheng-NOAA please add link here to the ppt that describes the 7 different approaches. I think what Raffaele pointed out does make sense. Tendencies cannot be accumulated. We need to use either 1) instantaneous tendencies or 2) accumulated increments and then converted them to tendencies. |
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Kate and Barry, Could you link the slides for the results of the seven
versions of code? I do not have them. version 4 and 5 uses the
instantaneous values.
I have attached the ppt file for seven experiment designs here.
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here to the ppt that describes the 7 different approaches. I think what
Raffaele pointed out does make sense. Tendencies cannot be accumulated. We
need to use either 1) instantaneous tendencies or 2) accumulated increments
and then converted them to tendencies.
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@AnningCheng-NOAA @yangfanglin @rmontuoro @bbakernoaa this is the link for v6 (v5 is the same as v6), v7: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1MfBouZh9kdYCJt1jquCCK_pBhLwDLgOd/edit#slide=id.g12cc3692d5c_0_0 , It looks like there is no large scale wet deposition. I don't think this looks reasonable, too. Kate |
@yangfanglin @rmontuoro @bbakernoaa @AnningCheng-NOAA I am trying a test only using the instantaneous tendencies, let's see how the results would be. Here I am using: I also deleted "if (reset_diag3d) then", to get the pfi_lsan initialized every time step. |
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@AnningCheng-NOAA @zhanglikate @yangfanglin @bbakernoaa @rmontuoro Since the Thompson scheme has inner loop, the best practice is probably using (tendency1 * dt1 + tendency2 * dt2...)/(dt1+dt2...); dt_atmos = dt1+dt2+... to get the instantaneous tendencies at the dt_atmos time step. Please see the code in my directory:/scratch1/NCEPDEV/hwrf/save/Chunxi.Zhang/tmp/chunxi/ufs-weather-model.test |
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Cunxi, It is great that you mentioned the inner loop! All my versions do
include the effects of inner loops and subcycles. Notice that here
dt1=dt2=dt3=... So the code can be simplified.
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Since the Thompson scheme has inner loop, the best practice is probably
using (tendency1 * dt1 + tendency2 * dt2...)/(dt1+dt2...); dt_atmos =
dt1+dt2+... to get the instantaneous tendencies at the dt_atmos time step.
Please see the code in my
directory:/scratch1/NCEPDEV/hwrf/save/Chunxi.Zhang/tmp/chunxi/ufs-weather-model.test
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removed this from In progress - a PR has been submitted
in CCPP v6 public release
… scheme based on test v17 for GOCART coupling
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@ChunxiZhang-NOAA Please respond to comments in this PR before it is merged. |
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I mean inout
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Please see my comments on PR 926:
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@bbakernoaa <https://github.com/bbakernoaa> this is the link for v5 and
v6:
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1waJIrqjBq6MW3HJlg6OSdq3zyUBJElvw/edit#slide=id.p1
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It looks like there is no large scale wet deposition. I don't think this
looks reasonable, too.
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This PR includes two parts:
(1) The coupling of GOCART aerosols with the RRTMG radiation scheme was implemented by Anning Cheng at EMC. The issue is described Issue#899.
(2) The large scale wet deposition was implemented into the Thompson scheme. When coupling with GOCART aerosols, the wet deposition is included in the Thompson scheme. The testing results can be file here. This work is related to NCAR/ccpp-physics issue#912 and ufs-weather-model issue#1191.