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Traveen Mathew

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Non-notable cricketer, who fails WP:GNG. Has only played in T10 cricket, not any FC, List A or T20 competition which can often help increase significant coverage. This article was moved to draftspace and then moved back despite minimal insufficient improvements, which is why this AFD is necessary. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:45, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep He has played two First Class matches, 12 List A matches and four T20 matches. He also represented Sri Lanka at the Under-19s Asian Cup. I have added more information and sources including two from The Papare which focus heavily on him. Lookslikely (Talk 18:43, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kasturi Murali Krishna

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The article wasn't notable and not passed on the criteria of WP:GNG, and the cite was a IMDB which is not reliable sources. Royiswariii Talk! 14:11, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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strong delete No citations, page isn't ok for main Wiki. Taksoh17 (talk) 14:30, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, not yet notable per WP:NAUTHOR, WP:BIO or WP:GNG, with no significant coverage found in reliable sources in English (Kasturi Murali Krishna or Kasturi Muralikrishna) or Telugu (కస్తూరి మురళీకృష్ణ), just passing mentions and social media. Wikishovel (talk) 14:40, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Kasturi Murali Krishna is one of the noted contemporary writer in Telugu Language at present. Article on his name is suitable to be placed in english wikipedia. Ofcourse I am searching for reliable sources for references which may took some time. Moreover this article is available in Telugu wikipedia since 2014 and didnot considered for deletion by any administrators. స్వరలాసిక (talk) 14:47, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It should be considered there as well if more sources are not found Geschichte (talk) 16:04, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Shipra Dawar

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This Topic is not meeting WP:GNG. I am unable to find sufficient coverage from independent sources. This article don't have any mention about the subject. This is paid/sponsored article. This is self published. Looks like WP:COVERT. B-Factor (talk) 13:48, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Hey,

Thank you for taking the time to initiate this discussion. This is my first attempt at publishing an article on Wikipedia, all guidance is appreciated.

Let's take this step by step-

This article don't have any mention about the subject- The link has been updated in the original article to reference IWill GiTA as described by Microsoft.
This is paid/sponsored article.- The article was used to establish Shira's role as the founder of Bharat Bhagya Vidhata Forum. Have added reference where this has been established- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFaTi2CB4Vg. This video is by Indian School of Business's Bharti School of Public Policy.
This is self published- This was used to communicate her higher education. Additional information has been published by Zee Media.

I hope this clarifies all the doubts. Jai Mata Di 2024 (talk) 16:19, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Jai Mata Di 2024 (talk) 20:41, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Pushpa Sahu

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Only selected for training camp before AFC Women’s Futsal Asian Cup 2025. I didn’t found any sources which discuss the subject and this player hasn’t won any medal at international level. Fails WP:GNG as well as WP:SPORTS TheSlumPanda (talk) 11:52, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Ramkishan Suthar

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mostly source are seem unreliable source to me, and most of the references are obtained from blog websites and the article not meet to WP:DIRECTOR or WP:NFILMMAKER. --- Bhairava7 • (@píng mє-tαlk mє) 06:15, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Tabish Khan (art critic)

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Biography of an art critic that fails WP:GNG, WP:NBIO. Sources in article are limited to WP:PRIMARYSOURCE WP:INTERVIEWS, WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS in media coverage of other topics, primary source bios and other non-independent sources. WP:BEFORE search turns up lots of his own writing but no independent WP:SIGCOV to establish notability. Dclemens1971 (talk) 03:15, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - the writer is known within the contemporary art scene in the UK and is currently active suggesting there may be more additions to the page in future. While I agree that searching for the author turns up lots of his own writing, a look at other art critics, writers and journalists with Wikipedia entries returns similar results. In terms of independent coverage, this article does include links to notable outlets that have sought his views on art stories and artworks. Suggestions for improvement rather than deletion may be a better course of action. Londoneditor284 (talk) 21:36, 3 January 2025 (UTC) — Londoneditor284 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
Keep these are good points. It would be a diservice to Wikipedia if well-known critics were expunged Likeabutterfly (talk) 21:45, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - although this person is mostly only known within the contemporary British art scene, they have contributed numerous articles, interviews, and features in multiple outlets and have been quoted in many sources (as can be seen from the citations). They are clearly significant enough within their own field to warrant keeping this article. Any suggestions to improve the article would be welcome. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.45.218.212 (talk) 12:53, 3 January 2025 (UTC) — 80.45.218.212 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
WP:SOCKSTRIKE. Izno (talk) 22:07, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Quotations in sources are not enough to demonstrate notability (except in a limited case for certain academics), and authoring articles isn't either. What SIGCOV in independent, reliable sources can you offer? Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:40, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Let me do some digging and get back to you. The nature of the subject (someone who writes about other people's artwork for a living) makes it difficult by definition to have many SIGCOV sources. I feel this should be taken into account? 80.45.218.212 (talk) 16:41, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If you feel this way, that's a great discussion topic for WP:VILLAGEPUMP, not for a discussion where we can't change policy. Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:19, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Could Dclemens1971 help in finding any better sources for this person/article? I've looked at pages for other critics too but can't seem to see how they fit the criteria if we are super-strict with SIGCOV Likeabutterfly (talk) 21:46, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Please strike your second !vote; editors are only allowed one !vote in an AfD. Dclemens1971 (talk) 21:47, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, the entire point of the WP:BEFORE search (which I did) was to find qualifying sources, and I didn't find them. Dclemens1971 (talk) 21:49, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"[A] search turns up lots of his own writing but no independent [sources]" - isn't this exactly what we should expect though? Likeabutterfly (talk) 21:55, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's what we should expect from a person who's not notable, I suppose. And as already mentioned, please strike through your duplicative !vote. Dclemens1971 (talk) 02:16, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Anne Sofie Madsen

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Borderline notability, subject requests deletion,Ticket:2024091410007147. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 00:44, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment Do you have any details on the VRT request, CaptainEek? Any reason for why they would be against the article? Since nothing in it seems negative. And I would not call her borderline notable, since she's one of the biggest names in fashion. It's just that the coverage of her is almost entirely not in English. But outside of most every fashion magazine in the world covering her, she also receives mainstream coverage from newspapers of record. For example:

So I'd really like some more information on this one before making a decision. Because I'm currently leaning toward too notable and well known for WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE to matter. Silver seren^C 01:03, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Silver seren The issue seems to be one of inaccuracy and the sources being out of date; most of them are over a decade old. I made a few corrections to the article, but her overall concern is that the article is now so out of date with her resume that potential employers google her and think her CV is fake because her more recent achievements are not on her Wikipedia. I think this is a problem we often encounter with BLP's: their article is frozen in time at a point when they had coverage, and doesn't reflect who they are now, but there isn't enough new coverage to update with. A problem that grows as Wikipedia reaches the 25 year mark. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 01:09, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That seems like an argument for expansion, not for deletion. Unless we're going to be deleting a ton of articles for being out of date. There's sources available. There's this from Vogue on her Tokyo 2017 collection. There's this from Women's Wear Daily on her Paris 2018 collection. There's this from Woman.dk and this from Fashion Forum about her 2021 collection collaboration with Lulu Kaalund. I got all that from just a quick Google search without even knowing anything about how to search for Danish, French, or Japanese sources. Silver seren^C 01:33, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm the VRT agent for that ticket, and CaptainEek's characterization is correct. She has provided only vague objections about things being incorrect, nothing specific. I have asked her to use WP:Edit Request Wizard to identify specific things to fix on the talk page, but she seems to want a VRT agent to do the research and fix things for her. The creator of the article even invites people to contact her directly and includes her email on her user page, but the article subject has not engaged with her. Yes, the subject of the article wants it deleted because she isn't famous, but the sources already cited suggest she's clearly notable, which isn't the same thing as fame. ~Anachronist (talk) 02:08, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

So the argument on her end is more of the "not a celebrity level fame", rather than the "rather well known designer in a field level fame" that she actually is, it seems. I still think this is fully fixable in the article, though it would definitely be helpful if she was willing to work with us on that. Since I'm sure she's more personally aware of the fashion news sources covering her more recent work than any of us are. Silver seren^C 02:36, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: I have received an email from the subject and have asked for further details. At this stage, I am not sure if she would prefer deletion or correction.--Ipigott (talk) 09:10, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Deletion would be an option if she was borderline notable or the article was a hit job, but neither case applies here. The notability seems pretty clear, and the article isn't negative either. If an article about a notable subject is deleted, someone else will eventually come along and write another article. Improvement is really the best past forward. ~Anachronist (talk) 01:59, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

David Smith (chef)

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No indication of notability whatsoever. A google search didn't reveal much. KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 23:01, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete WP:ADMASQ, obvious highly promotional article with promotional intentions of a person of questionable notability. Graywalls (talk) 23:46, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete poorly cited orphan article that fails WP:BIO. LibStar (talk) 14:10, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Isaac Anderson (model)

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Refunded after soft deletion. All the sourcing on this fashion model is over-the-top promotional material, nearly all un-bylined, in sources of questionable independence and reliability (examples: Isaac Anderson 3000 is the modern Renaissance man, blending intellect, sustainability, and fashion into a tapestry that feels revolutionary yet timeless and Isaac Anderson is celebrated not only as a fashion icon but also as a trailblazer who has redefined the fashion landscape.) In my WP:BEFORE search, I couldn't find any WP:SIGCOV in independent, secondary, reliable sources and so I don't see a pass of WP:GNG (much less WP:NMODEL). Dclemens1971 (talk) 20:16, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep — @Dclemens1971.This sounds like a target to me though I might be wrong . I was doing some checks and I realized you’re the same editor that did that first nomination. The reason for both nominations are the same. For the first nomination I completely agree as the reasons as at that time was valid but I have a problem with this one. “All sources are over-the top promotional” this is not true if you check all the sources. One source was even talking about a scam call, how’s a scam call promotional for a model? Secondly you said nearly all unbylined. This is also not true. I can see only one source unbyline(the first source). For the promotional words you wrote , yes true it sounds promotional but even that that’s the conclusion of the article and the promotional is not throughout every article as you stated. You also said the sources’ independence is questionable. In a discussion by experienced editors about countries which are affected by system bias , some these sources were discussed. This is the link , https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:New_pages_patrol/Source_guide_discussions/Ghana & https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Nigeria/Nigerian_sources . The subject has been featured in a notable show(CBS morning show). I think it should be included in the English Encyclopedia. Maconzy3 (talk) 17:57, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I was referring to the content in my BEFORE search, most of which was unbylined. But multiple sources in the article are indeed unbylined. Here's my source analysis:
Vanguard. No byline. Highly promotional.

Modern Ghana. Bylined but also highly promotional. This reads like marketing, not an independent, reliable news outlet. The author appears to have written only this article for Modern Ghana, so is likely not to be a reporter or a legitimate journalist.

PeaceFM. No byline. Promotional. Appears to be based entirely on quotes from Anderson.

Pulse. Bylined, but very promotional, by an "journalist" whose entire oeuvre appears to consist of spam.

CBS News. This is an article about Anderson's brother with a three-sentence WP:TRIVIALMENTION of Isaac Anderson.

GhanaCelebrities.com. An unreliable celebrity gossip blog.

Graphic.com.gh. Another puff piece.
Perhaps this is the discussion you meant to link? Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Nigerian_newspapers. It makes clear that the Nigerian sources list of the WikiProject is questionable. Either way, all we have on Anderson are puff pieces, unbylined or by writers with sketchy credentials, or articles that mention him trivially. No independent and reliable SIGCOV. Dclemens1971 (talk) 18:19, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reo Nakamura (footballer, born 1990)

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Per AfD on the same individual. CNC (talk) 19:50, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per the other AfD. Nothing much found other than trivial mentions in match reports and database sources. Since both AfDs are regarding the same person, if one is deemed non-notable, then so must the other. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 20:26, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 21:14, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 21:42, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:ATHLETE, same as other AfD. Snowycats (talk) 04:16, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Naved Masood

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It is hard to find substantial coverage that could meet WP:GNG. The sources listed in the article do not provide WP:SIGCOV. Bakhtar40 (talk) 18:48, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Alexandre Réis

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Non notable businessman. Most of the sources in this article are about a Brazilian musician called Alee, born in Bahia, not about the Angolan businessman Alexandre Réis, who this article says was born in Luanda. The only article that talks about Reis is this one [1], which seems too promotional. It also looks like the creator of this article has been checkuser blocked on ptwiki. Badbluebus (talk) 18:20, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment article creator (and four other sock accounts that have edited it) have been indefinitely blocked: see WP:Sockpuppet investigations/3ydepartment. The AFD has to continue though, as it's ineligible for db-banned, and probably ineligible for db-spam. Wikishovel (talk) 19:12, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kioumars Pourhashemi

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Doesn't seem to be that important. All references are in passing or about his death, probably can be mentioned as a section in 2024 Battle of Aleppo Ladsgroup^overleg 17:37, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose I made this article because I believe he was an important figure in a very important event that led to the downfall of Syria. History is important. Yesyesmrcool (talk) 17:41, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Can be considered as a soldier killed in action. He is merely a member of the IRGC forces involved in the 2024 Battle of Aleppo, but not a key member. Jeeputer ^Talk 17:27, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Pedro Neves (poker player)

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I agree with the previous AFD: Non-notable player, no WP:SIGCOV. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:06, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. No WP:SIGCOV, no coverage outside niche press. The article appears to be more about the tournament than the article subject. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 14:48, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to 2024 World Series of Poker. Notable only in connection with WP:ONEEVENT. ~ A412 ^talk! 16:46, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per above. Redirects are cheap. Clarityfiend (talk) 20:16, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hemanta Debbarma

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The article fails WP:GNG and does not meet the criteria outlined in WP:NPOL. Comr Melody Idoghor (talk) 11:07, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Kambala Srinivas Rao

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The article fails to meet WP:GNG, WP:BIO or even WP:NPOL due to a lack of reliable, independent sources providing significant coverage. The subject's activities, while notable within his community, lack documented national or regional impact, and the article has a promotional tone. Comr Melody Idoghor (talk) 07:26, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete No evidence of notability (of any flavour), just promotion. A7-speedied, and immediately recreated by likely COI editor. --DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:15, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Poor sources on the page with no notable coverage on the subject. Per nom fails WP:NPOL. The subject does not seem to warrant a biographical page because of no significant, interesting, or unusual enough coverage to deserve attention or to be recorded as Politician, and activist. RangersRus (talk) 09:30, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the feedback. I would like to address the concerns:

1.Notability (WP:NPOL):

Kambala Srinivas Rao is the President of *Vishwa Hindu Dharma Parirakshana* and joined the BJP in December 2024, a move covered by reliable sources such as OneIndia, The Hans India*, and The New Indian Express. His contributions include cultural preservation and strengthening BJP's presence in East Godavari, which demonstrates political significance.

2. Reliable Sources:

["Vishwa Hindu Dharma Parirakshana president Kambala Srinivasa Rao joins BJP"](https://www.oneindia.com/india/vhdp-rama-sena-president-kambala-srinivasa-rao-joins-bjp-party-strengthens-itself-in-the-rajahmundr-4025853.html)

Rama Sena Leader Kambala Joins BJP"](https://www.thehansindia.com/andhra-pradesh/rama-sena-leader-kambala-joins-bjp-932535)

["Kambala Srinivas Rao’s initiatives highlighted in BJP strengthening"](https://www.newindianexpress.com/states/andhra-pradesh/2024/Dec/26/rahul-gandhi-used-to-undermine-india-on-foreign-soil-mp-daggubati-purandeswari)

3. Significance:

His community-focused efforts in temple infrastructure and cultural preservation add to his profile as a social activist.

Given the above, I believe the article meets Wikipedia’s notability criteria (WP:NPOL, WP:GNG). I am open to suggestions for improving the page help out to publish my article without any error Durgaprasadpetla (talk) 11:44, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Could you please provide a response without AI? In addition, these sources that you've linked are equally poor. Thanks. Cutlass ^Ciera 18:23, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete Fails GNG. Cutlass ^Ciera 18:27, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: No evidence of notability, and when you call approving your own AFC submission "removing an unnecessary disambiguator", it doesn't indicate a healthy understanding of policy. Sumanuil. _{(talk to me)} 20:35, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hanad Zakaria Warsame

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Unsourced and does not meet WP:SIGCOV/WP:GNG requirements. Completely unsourced article going on 13+ years, and has had no major edits (barring the metadata box removal April 28, 2016) since 2010 (all other edits since 2010 have been wikilinking and template/grammatical adjustments). No reliable sources are immediately apparent, so nominating for AfD. Zinnober9 (talk) 22:17, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete I couldn't find any secondary English language sources at all that didn't trace back to Wikipedia. I had no luck finding the unspecified BBC World News article that is the only source, couldn't find any coverage about an assassination on 8 July 2008 in Jijiga, and couldn't work out what EVIFF actually is. I'm not sure whether being "senior congressman of the ONLF" confers any notability, but I couldn't find a source to verify it anyway. Unless someone is able to track down any Somali language sources, I think this has to be a delete given that I essentially couldn't verify anything in the article. MCE89 (talk) 23:44, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nathan Tinsdale

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Hull City U21 player, yet to make debut for a senior team. I only found WP:ROUTINE coverage[2] and passing mention,[3] no indiciation of WP:SIGCOV for WP:GNG. Suggest Draftify or Delete until notability is established. CNC (talk) 12:45, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 15:01, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 19:39, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Raja Raghuraj Singh

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Freedom activists are not inherently notable. The subject fails WP:ANYBIO, no indication of WP:SIGCOV or notable contributions to the independence movement. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 10:00, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - Meets WP:NPOLITICIAN as a member of the United Provinces Legislative Council, a precursor to the modern-day Uttar Pradesh Legislative Council. From this PhD thesis, "Kiriti Vardhan is the scion of Mankapur royal estate, and he is the fifth-generation representative of a powerful family which had direct influence in the district’s politics even before independence. His great-great grandfather Raja Raghuraj Singh and great grandfather Raja Ambikeshwar Pratap Singh won elections for the provincial assembly (of the United Provinces) in 1920s and 1930s." [4] This article from the Pioneer Mail in 1923 seems to confirm that he was a member of the provincial legislature.[5] ⁂CountHacker (talk) 18:44, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ram Krishna Bantawa

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Doesn't meet WP:NAUTHOR and WP:SIGCOV as per Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!}. Rahmatula786 (talk) 05:43, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Rahmatula786,

I hope this message finds you well.

Thank you for raising concerns about the article on Ram Krishna Bantawa. I firmly believe the article meets the requirements outlined in Wikipedia’s WP:NAUTHOR and WP:SIGCOV guidelines. Below is an explanation supporting this assertion:

Notability as an Author (WP:NAUTHOR):

Ram Krishna Bantawa is a recognized author and lyricist in Nepali literature. He is known for his novel Saghan Tuwanlo (Shrill Mist) and novel Amalai Chithi (Letter to Mother-whose English translation is forthcoming.) His work has made a significant cultural impact, particularly within the Nepali community.
His lyrics and songs are available on platforms such as YouTube.
Saghan Tuwanlo is included in the curriculum of Tribhuvan University, highlighting its academic and cultural significance.His novels address meaningful societal issues such as women’s rights, untouchability, and Sati Pratha (the practice of widow immolation), further emphasizing his contributions to literature and social discourse.

Significant Coverage (WP:SIGCOV):

Independent and reliable media outlets, including Kantipur, Annapurna Post, and various Hong Kong-based Nepali newspapers, have provided coverage of Bantawa’s work. This demonstrates his influence in Nepali literature and music.
He has been featured in interviews and podcasts that delve into his life, literary contributions, and societal impact, providing further evidence of significant independent coverage.
Bantawa has received several awards and certificates from reputable organizations, including:Nepalese Literary Academy Hong Kong , Heavenly Path Hong Kong , Charu Sahitya Pratisthan , Hong Kong Nepalese Federation , Lyricist Association of Nepal

The article references independent and verifiable sources that discuss Ram Krishna Bantawa’s work in detail. Taken collectively, these factors satisfy the standards for inclusion in Wikipedia under WP:NAUTHOR and WP:SIGCOV.

If additional information or sources are required to further support this assertion and enhance the article, I would be happy to assist.

Best regards, Rasilshrestha (talk) 09:06, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I feel you know the person very well so you are aware of so many information. When i search on internet , I hardly find anything of significance covered in reputable media outlet about him .

regarding references, plz go through all the references, and let me know if a single source in reputable Nepali media from NPOV meeting WP criteria. If your have such sources plz put it here other than what you have kept in references. Plz note that sources in reference are not of significance. Rahmatula786 (talk) 10:06, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Rahmatula786,

Thank you for your message. I want to clarify that I do not personally know the person. The information I’ve provided is based solely on my research.

I understand your concerns regarding the importance of meeting Wikipedia's notability criteria. Unfortunately, there is limited online information due to the lack of archived articles in Nepali media. However, I have collected pictures of old newspaper articles about the author, including coverage from Nepali Hong Kong newspapers during a book launch press meet.

I believe the article is written from a neutral point of view. While I cannot attach the offline sources here, I’d be happy to share them via email. Additionally, I can provide relevant YouTube(https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Ram+Krishna+Bantawa) links of his Songs, Interviews. Please let me know how you’d like to proceed.

I look forward to your guidance and support, as I am currently gathering resources and information for my next article of Nepali Singer "Kuma Sagar" . Your insights will be invaluable in helping me refine my work. Please let me know how best to proceed.

Best Regards, Rasilshrestha (talk) 07:13, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

According to Wikipedia's guidelines, contributors are discouraged from writing about individuals they personally know to maintain neutrality and avoid conflicts of interest. I can assure you that I have no personal connection with, nor do I know, the author.

In my case, I refrained from including details about the author's awards and certificates, as I was unsure about their accuracy and could not verify them through reliable sources all i had were photographs of certificates and some mentions in newspapers. However, I conducted thorough research and included information about the author's books, song lyrics, and album, as these are well-documented and publicly available.

I can provide you with ISBN of the books they were published through Sajha Publications and ASIA 2000 Ltd. Also you can search in youtube for his songs and interviews. I can additionally provide you with offline sources(Newspaper Articles, Magazines) relating to the author. Rasilshrestha (talk) 15:54, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dr. Nawa Raj Subba

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Not meeting WP:BLP. Not a single in depth coverage of the subject in any neutral source. Rahmatula786 (talk) 05:15, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete and salt: There has been no independent news media coverage or reliable sources about this person since the article was created in 2009 and salted in 2017. Subject does not pass GNG or NBIO Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 06:40, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Fails GNG guidelines. ☮️Counter-Strike:Mention 269🕉️^{(🗨️ ● ✉️ ● 📔)} 07:58, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and Salt. He has published stuff buy nobody seems to have cited it. Xxanthippe (talk) 08:05, 1 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]
Delete - fails WP:NBIO. Salt, based on repeated attempts to create the article. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 17:23, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Shalabh Gupta

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Fails to meet WP:GNG and WP:NBLP.
Sources provided (in order):

(1): Business Daily: A puff piece on the subject, who seems to be being interviewed for this; not an independent source.
(2): Mifeed: The title says “Blazing Trails In Biotech”, need I say more? Same as above. Published in the same week as the above source and another puff piece on the subject, who seems to be being interviewed for this; not an independent source.
(3): Company website: Primary source, as this is the company's own site. Self-published content.
(4): LA Harbor News: I am unable to visit the site and therefore cannot vet this. My browser tells me this is an unsafe site. Visit at your own direction.
(5): Founders Network: This is another primary source, as it is self-published. Details are taken from an event hosted via EventBrite here.

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Eric Gilbertson (climber)

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WP:BLP1E. Much of notability stems from that one event about Mt. Rainier height matter and there's not been much coverage beyond the immediate time periods following the matter, failing WP:20YT and since further coverage on this hasn't really developed, it's WP:TOOSOON. For other things, it's not quite at GNG meeting level.

The article was successfully deleted with unanimous consensus only two months ago. Graywalls (talk) 00:06, 1 January 2025 (UTC) And due to that, with salt please. Graywalls (talk) 02:40, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. I found this through the academics and educators deletion sorting list but as an assistant teaching professor at Seattle University [6] with only one well-cited publication [7] he definitely does not pass WP:PROF. Any notability is going to have to rest on his mountaineering and mountain metrology efforts. —David Eppstein (talk) 00:43, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Given my conflict of interest, I won't weigh in on the matter. I'll instead ping other users who were involved in the AfC process, including @DJ Cane, @Cabrils, and @Theroadislong. KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 01:38, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: When I saw the AfC Draft was accepted into the mainspace, I got a little too excited and treated editing this article like any other article on Wikipedia. With that said, given the COI, I knew not to do any content-related edits unless proposed through the talk page, so I did quick edits that I believed to be permissible per COI uncontroversial edits, including adding categories and a grammatical fix. The impulsive edit was the removal of the multiple issues template which I acknowledge was a controversial/disruptive edit given my COI and inherent bias. I apologize for that edit and will not make the same mistake in the future, in making impulsive/disruptive edits that aren't clearly permitted in the COI uncontroversial edits section. If you need more information about my COI, please see the article talk page. Cheers! KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 01:53, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Clarification would be appreciated on the bizarre coincidence (noted here [8]) whereby KnowledgeIsPower and an account calling itself 'Eric Gilbertson' both began posting on the Mount Rainier talk page promoting the same pro-Gilbertson agenda within days of each other.

WP:SOCKPUPPETRY or WP:MEATPUPPETRY is clearly indicated, especially as the Gilbertson account appears to have been created solely to make those posts.

Your disclosure on COI clearly does not adequately cover the links between yourself and Gilbertson. Axad12 (talk) 06:05, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Courtesy ping @Axad12: as they were involved in the previous AfD. Graywalls (talk) 02:25, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and Salt. no pass of WP:Prof and nobility from WP:GNG not found. Xxanthippe (talk) 01:58, 1 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]
Comment: This article was accepted through the AfC process. Beyond the BLP1E that the nominator mentioned, did you consider the sources such as Nat Geo Poland, The Times of London, Süddeutsche Journal, Tages-Anzeiger Journal, American Alpine Club. If he didn't pass WP:GNG, the article wouldn't have gotten through AfC. KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 14:03, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I keep seeing "this article was accepted through the AfC process" used as a reason for keeping an article. It is not a reason. All it means is that some reviewer thought this article might survive a deletion discussion. But now we get to find out if they were correct. —David Eppstein (talk) 16:30, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes sorry, I was that reviewer and you are correct, I thought only that it might survive a deletion discussion, I could be wrong, I have no strong opinion either way. Theroadislong (talk) 16:53, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion: After thinking it over a little, if the general consensus comes to the conclusion Gilbertson isn't notable, how about a merge/redirect into Highpointing? Just like Ginge Fullen was the first individual to reach the highest points of each European country, Gilbertson was the first to reach the highest point in each Stan and North American country and is therefore important to the sport of highpointing (and in my opinion has the enough media coverage to warrant a mention there). I'm not saying merge this whole article into highpointing, just the bits important to the sport.

In my opinion, however, if Ginge Fullen can get a Wikipedia article, I think Gilbertson should also. This AfD should be viewed from the lens of Gilbertson's climbing/highpointing/surveying media coverage, since from the academic perspective I agree he's non-notable. Obviously my COI gives me a bias in favor of Gilbertson, but figured I'd throw this idea out there. KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 17:50, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I also have a suggestion. Why don't you stop using Wikipedia as a platform to promote Gilbertson? This edit [9] which you made recently, removing multiple tags from the Gilbertson article, was a disgrace for a user with almost 3,000 edits - especially one who has previously been brought to COIN [10] and had been pointed to WP:COI. The edit is absolutely typical of the work of bad faith conflicted users such as yourself (as was the timing of the edit).

I also suggest that you stop trying to interfere with this AfD and instead allow non-conflicted users to decide what should happen to this article.

If you have a problem with the article for Ginge Fullen (or any other article) then nominate it to AfD as well. If one article can be located which doesn't comply with GNG then that isn't an argument for the further creation of non-notable articles. Instead it is an argument for the article which doesn't comply with GNG to be deleted. Axad12 (talk) 05:31, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and Salt. The subject clearly does not satisfy WP:GNG. The article is the creation of a user who seems intent on promoting Gilbertson and thus salting seems the only way to prevent further re-creation. Axad12 (talk) 05:08, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I participated in the original AfD as well as the AfC. Since I was directly pinged here, I figured I ought to say something. I'm on the fence about whether or not Gilbertson is notable at this time and will refrain from voting. That said, I feel the creator of the article has been making positive steps to correct problematic editing and feel that there is some dogpiling going on here that is counter productive. If kept, this article needs further trimming to decrease the dominance of primary sources and sources derived from primary sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DJ Cane (talk • contribs)

In what sense is pointing out the issues with the user's editing counter productive? Earlier today the user has voluntarily agreed to stop editing around the subject of Gilbertson, which is clearly a positive outcome all round. If you prefer to allow COI editing, meatpuppetry, etc., to continue without comment (including at COIN, where you made a very similar comment) then I'm afraid I cannot agree. You only have to look at the resolution to the discussions at the user's talk page and my own talk page to see the entirely positive and amicable outcome here. Axad12 (talk) 22:02, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@DJ Cane:, Have you not seen them making another attempt at inserting borderline run of the mill person Eric Gilbertson into very high view count, indisputably highly important and notable articles such as the country of Uzbekistan and Mt. Rainier ? Also, the draft they submitted just a few weeks ago was full of unacceptable WP:QS primary sources and self published material which they should've known better by now to not use as source. This hints towards just an attempt to re-submit as close to the original version as possible. Graywalls (talk) 23:39, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

While I said I am moving on from this, just wanted to clarify the above.

For the record, I will state my reasoning for adding Gilbertson-related content to the articles you mentioned was so that his article wasn't an orphan. I (wrongly) figured it would be permissible to attribute the survey to him if his article was in the mainspace. In drafting the current article I did my best to reduce fluff, but I recognize that the natural bias arising from my COI reduces my standard of editing in both instances.

As I stated to @Axad12, I will no longer edit anything Gilbertson-related nor insert any Gilbertson-related content anywhere else in the encyclopedia. However, per @Graywalls suggestion here, I may submit one COI edit request to the highpointing article pertaining to a mention of Gilbertson. If it is declined by a neutral editor, then I won't do repeat COI edit requests.

Axad12, I know you suggested to me here that I don't do any COI edit requests (and I initially agreed), but I feel one COI edit request is a reasonable, non-disruptive way to get a neutral editor to decide if Gilbertson-related content belongs on a non-BLP article. Cheers! KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 00:32, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. I have been involved with the draft page and multiple discussions with the author on my Talk page. I am of the view that the page is WP:TOOSOON. The serious COI is concerning. Cabrils (talk) 23:37, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Emil Kyulev

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Seems like this person is not notable - no sources, no specific achievements. OSvsOS (talk) 19:44, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Article definitely needs improvement, but a cursory search turned up multiple independent news sources chronicling his death and important elements of his life that satisfy WP:GNG, including The Guardian, The New York Times, and The Economist. I just added those references to the article as a start. Waterfelt (talk) 00:09, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
keep. bg:Емил Кюлев plenty of content and sources. --Altenmann >talk 00:18, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Julia Majale

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All the sources Fail WP:GNG and WP: SIGCOV cannot be established. The sources are either primary sources like this and this. The rest were written by the news media she manages and they also lack WP: SIGCOV. Ibjaja055 (talk) 19:37, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: per nom and could not find sources FuzzyMagma (talk) 17:24, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - a lack of significant coverage independent of the subject. If you find anything deeper in the Internet, please ping me. Bearian (talk) 02:11, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jack C. Mancino

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This article about an Hungarian-born British artist, actor and musician is poorly sourced. Large sections of text are unreferenced. There are seven inline citations, of which five are to IMDb. The one to the Chicago Tribune is geo-locked for me. The other just says "Feszültség és szabadság Lisszabonban", and has been tagged as needing a full citation since 2020. Googling the phrase led me to https://holdkatlan.hu/index.php/szemle/lapszemle/3559-feszultseg-es-szabadsag-lisszabonban which doesn't appear to mention this person, although I do not understand Hungarian. The list of external links doesn't include any reliable sources which could be added as references. I have carried out WP:BEFORE for Jack C. Mancino, Jack Mancino and the alternative name given, Balogh Csaba, and not found references to add. There is an artist called Csaba Balogh who may be notable, but his year and place of birth are different. I don't think this article demonstrates that Mancino meets WP:GNG, WP:ANYBIO, WP:NARTIST, WP:NACTOR or WP:NMUSICIAN. Tacyarg (talk) 18:39, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi! 1. please clarify which "Large sections of text are unreferenced". The newly inserted sections are films and music will be sourced soon. IMDb is a good source for referencing filmographies. Can Soundcloud, Amazon, Spotify or Apple Music or any other streaming site for music be used for referencing discographies? Thank you for helping. 2. It is possible that the owner of the referenced link has changed their site that was correct when it was inserted. This page has been on Wikipedia more than 15 years. Karlmayer5000 (talk) 20:39, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. The whole of the Biography section is unreferenced, as is the sub-section Early classical stage under Work, and the sub-section Music in the section Acting credits and accolades. IMDb is not a reliable source: see WP:IMDb. The other sites you mention are not reliable sources, but I don't believe discographies need sourcing - as with bibliographies, the existence of the works can be assumed. Tacyarg (talk) 21:00, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

thank you very much. Can you please point me web platforms that qualifies as good source of references to understand the policies. Karlmayer5000 (talk) 06:33, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please read the reliable sources link and the guidance on your Talk page. The teahouse may also be helpful. Tacyarg (talk) 07:53, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jack C. Mancino has written several comic books. Can I link them as references in the section I am about to make on this page called: Author?

Source link: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Jack-C-Mancino/author/B0BZJGN477?ref=ap_rdr&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true NorAnditoth5 (talk) 10:28, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Amazon is not a reliable source. If there are reviews of these books in reliable sources, those would be appropriate references. Tacyarg (talk) 10:42, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Can't find any significant coverage anywhere. The first citation refers to this site, which does not provide significant coverage. The Tribune piece just contains a trivial mention. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 08:59, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

In the Chicago Tribune article he was mentioned by the writer in connection with a Hollywood photographer's art painting collection and in the article Mr. Mancino's works were positively compared to Jean-Michel Basquiat who was one of America's most iconic abstract artists. 37.76.13.207 (talk) 09:49, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please log in and only use a single account when commenting. (Assuming you are User:Karlmayer5000 and/or User:NorAnditoth5) The artist was only mentioned in a single sentence. A brief mention by a photographer is a clear example of trivial coverage, nowhere near the significant coverage requirement for a source to count towards notability as Wikipedia defines it. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 20:34, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I am unable to find reliable sourcing for the biographical or artistic claims made in this article. Source assessment of current sources below. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 00:17, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Source assessment table
Source	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTK2uNBdUZE	self published interview	✘ No
Feszültség és szabadság Lisszabonba	incomplete citation	? Unknown
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2013/05/18/working-art-3/	paywall	? Unknown
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14840232/	IMDB	✘ No
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8503240/	IMDB	✘ No
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13094566/	IMDB	✘ No
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/148014120-felix-gruber	Goodreads listing	✘ No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

Arjun Apparao Jadhav

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I draftified it once, see [11] and it was moved to mainspace by the creator again see [12]. I haven't found any RS in the article and the subject clearly does not pass WP:ANYBIO and WP:GNG. Taabii (talk) 17:59, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. I also couldn't find any coverage of this person or their company in reliable sources. And this is clearly promotional - the claim that they wrote a "famous poem" seems to be sourced only to a) the poem itself and b) their appearance on a podcast. The other sources have unclear authorship and clearly don't support the claim that they are a "rising hero" in Indian entrepreneurship. Clearly not notable. MCE89 (talk) 19:17, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

*Keep I have Seen all RS. these all matches with WP guidlines.and its a early stage entreprenure and i hope that will help this entreprenure to his upcoming life.i also cheack his bussiness site this is awsome its a storytelling platform for childrens or teenagers world changing concept to bulid character of upcoming generations.that man deserves it.to be on WP.some times we have to go beyond the past rules or belif to make something great change in society StoryReader1999 (talk) 20:20, 31 December 2024 (UTC) Struck vote by sock.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:41, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

- Hi User:StoryReader1999, I couldn't help but notice that your comments on this AfD were your very first edit on Wikipedia. How did you find out about this AfD? If you have a connection to the author or subject of this article you should disclose it. MCE89 (talk) 20:31, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  account is new due to some technical fault my account is vanished. so i'm not new on WP.and i dont have any connection with this article or subject.i found it here /wiki/Wikipedia:XfD_today i have contributed in verious articles StoryReader1999 (talk) 20:48, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

~~:Keep this page is keepable. due to WP:ANYBIO and WP:GNG. this article is not deletable Pune-Writer (talk) 21:33, 31 December 2024 (UTC)~~ Struck sock vote.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:28, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Just noting that commenting on this AfD was User:Pune-Writer's very first edit to Wikipedia as well. MCE89 (talk) 21:47, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And they have been blocked as a sock of the same person as the struck-out comment above. Spike 'em (talk) 01:49, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy delete and salt. Created by a sockpuppet. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 22:15, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete and salt per MCE89, sock-created spam. Cutlass ^Ciera 22:28, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete non-notable businessman, 3 of the 4 previous sources on page (which I removed) were written by the subject (linking to his instagram page in footer of website). No other significant RS coverage. Spike 'em (talk) 01:48, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

As a matter of procedure, I restored the sources. Generally, it's not a good idea to remove things from an article while it is at AfD.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:28, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ok, I've merged the refs instead as there were multiple links to the same pages. As a review of the sources:
- AtoZInsta.com the footer says Copyright 2024 : By - AtoZInsta and clicking on AtoZInsta takes you to subject's Insta page
- GetExtra is the "about" page of website created by subject, so cannot be used to establish notability.
- fmmarathi, footer links to same insta page as above, the about us link states the Founder and CEO is the subject.
- kukufm seems to be a podcast platform, so content is likely UGC.
Spike 'em (talk) 10:42, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Delete This article doesn’t have enough reliable sources to prove the person’s notability. Overall, it feels more promotional than informative. 𝒮-𝒜𝓊𝓇𝒶 05:09, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Reads like WP:PROMO. All the sources on the page are primary, unreliable and paid publicity. The subject has not made a significant impact and did not make any achievement worthy of notice nationally or internationally. The subject is not notable enough to warrant a full fledged article on himself. RangersRus (talk) 09:51, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Naftali Schiff

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Fails WP:GNG. The article reads a lot like a CV. The piece "Rabbi Naftali Schiff: Aish UK's wonderwall" by The Jewish Chronicle might be one source that counts towards notability, but other than that, I haven't been able to find much. Mooonswimmer 15:35, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep. Thanks for the nomination -- I had thought about AfDing this article when originally creating Josef Lewkowicz. Most of the sources currently in the article are poor, and it needs a WP:TNT. But there are multiple, in-depth profiles in the Jewish Chronicle and Jewish News over the years [13], [14], [15], multiple=page coverage in a book [16], with additional coverage of Schiff role in his charities [17], [18], [19], that could suffice for notability. Longhornsg (talk) 16:30, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete as a professional at work. Misses the bar of the GNG. gidonb (talk) 03:36, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Robert W. Faid

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Reliable sources mentioning Faid only mention him for a single thing: his theory that Mikhail Gorbachev is the Antichrist, for which he received the satirical Ig Nobel Prize. Here are three such sources; note that the third has merely a passing mention:

Levine, Art (June 4, 1988). "THE DEVIL IN GORBACHEV". Washington Post. Archived from the original on September 5, 2022. Retrieved December 29, 2024.
Abrahams, Marc (May 10, 2004). "Devilish digits". The Guardian. Archived from the original on August 8, 2022. Retrieved December 29, 2024.
Whisker, Daniel (July 2012). "Apocalyptic Rhetoric on the American Religious Right: Quasi-Charisma and Anti-Charisma". Max Weber Studies. 12 (2): 159–184 – via JSTOR. The periodic modification of the specific signs of prophetic fulfilment is a key feature of the discourse: no-one now presents Mikhail Gorbachev as a potential Antichrist, as did Robert Faid in 1988 (Faid 1988), or the Native Americans as Antichrist's army, as did Cotton Mather in 1693 (Boyer 1992).

In its current state, the article contains information far beyond this single thing. This information is either completely unsourced or copied verbatim, in what I assume is a copyright violation, from Faid's obituary on Legacy.com, an unreliable source which hosts user-generated content and nonsensically claims that Faid "held the honor of being in the top ten nuclear scientists until 1975".

In my opinion, this single thing for which Faid is known is not enough to make him notable. Instead, this information, along with the three sources above, would be better suited as a part of a different article, perhaps List of conspiracy theories § Antichrist or Faid's entry at List of Ig Nobel Prize winners § 1993. –CopperyMarrow15 (talk – edits) 22:51, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect or merge to List of Ig Nobel Prize winners § 1993. Also add more info in the target page about his Antichrist theories, the one thing reliable sources confirm about him.

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Comment The entire Biography section was all but a direct copy from his 2008 Baltimore Sun obituary - and has been since April 2009. I've removed the copyvio text and RD1'd the article history. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:40, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Bowers

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Came across this article when I tried to link Mike Bowers in a draft I'm working on and linked to this instead. BLP article with no sources, appears to be written by someone with a COI given the specificity of some of the details. I did a search for sources and coverage but was unable to find anything. There is another musician with a similar name (Michael D. Bowers) who has some coverage, but that does not appear to be the person this article is about. 🌸⁠wasianpower⁠🌸 (talk • contribs) 22:25, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. Why doesn't the musician "Michael D. Bowers" that you mentioned have his own article if he has some coverage?

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Delete - Lack of reliable sources so we are unable to prove notability. Morogris (✉ • ✎) 00:11, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Nothing found for this singer in my search. Article is largely unsourced, so we have no way of confirming what's correct. Appears to be only a working musician, nothing for our notability purposes. Oaktree b (talk) 01:53, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Cannot find any reliable sources establishing notability. ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 02:18, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Daere Afonya-a Akobo

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With a puff piece like this, interviews like this and press release like this , all the sources fail WP:GNG. All the awards too are run-of-the-mills . Ibjaja055 (talk) 21:34, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Sigcov was only found in 1 reliable source, his awards are run-of-the-mill and he clearly fails GNG. Noah ^💬 21:50, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Puff pieces as explained. Entrepreneur means self-employed in my mind, but he works for someone else. Working in sales and flow measurements, implies this is a CV. Oaktree b (talk) 01:54, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Sources to primary or unreliable sources. Independent sources available are not enough to meet the general notability criteria. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 06:55, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Malachi Sharpe

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Article was previously deleted and since then there doesn't appear to be anymore significant coverage for GNG. CNC (talk) 19:32, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify – WP:TOOSOON. But being from United's youth sectors and called up by the Scotland national team, he tends to establish WP:GNG soon. Svartner (talk) 20:45, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Playing for the U21 team would require lots of coverage, there just isn't enough here. Sources 4 and 5 sound like SEO sites, the rest appear to be blogs or primary sources. I don't find articles about this individual either. Oaktree b (talk) 01:58, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hey,

I understand that the article about Malachi Sharpe may currently lack sufficient coverage to meet Wikipedia’s notability standards. Before the page is potentially deleted, I wanted to kindly ask if you might have any suggestions or tips on how it could be improved or expanded to better meet those criteria.

Thank you in advance for your time and consideration. I appreciate any guidance you can provide.

Kind regards, Editor 11927 (talk) 06:28, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies for not elaborating in nomination with relevant links. Please see WP:GNG and WP:NSPORT (in particular WP:SPORTBASIC) for establishing notability for the subject. The problem is generally a lack of independent significant coverage from secondary sources, noting that United In Focus would come under fan-site and therefore fails to contribute to this. CNC (talk) 11:15, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@CommunityNotesContributor Is United In Focus a simple fan-site though? Even if it focuses solely on United, this looks to be alot more than just a simple fan blog. It has a rather detailed editorial Policy and significant number of experienced journalists working for them. Alvaldi (talk) 20:20, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's subjective, I agree with editorial oversight it's beyond a traditional fan site. At the same time it's nothing more than a website for fans, and also lacks the ability to be truly independent from subject. CNC (talk) 21:10, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Generally, sport websites publish articles that appeal to the audience that they are targeting. Football sites appeal to the average football fan. This site seems to just narrow it down to the average Manchester United football fan. If the site is not run by the player/club/league etc. then it is independent from the subject. Alvaldi (talk) 14:11, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Personally I'd categorise FC fan sites differently than football-specific sites like Goal.com or OneFootball (when not sync feed). It's not a coincidence that United In Focus is United specific, instead it's intentional. That said, given it's owned by GTV Media Group, it could well be considered independent in this case. CNC (talk) 15:13, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have no problem with sites that are team specific rather than league or football specific as long as they are professionaly run with editorial oversight. I would also think it would open up a pandora's box to reject such sites because with the same argument someone could state that Goal.com is not independent of football related subjects because it only covers football specific stories. All that said, I'm not arguing that the subject is notable, just that significant articles from United in Focus should go towards WP:GNG. Sharpe would still need significant articles from other publications over some extended period of time. Alvaldi (talk) 15:57, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the quick reply and the helpful info! I’ll look into finding more reliable sources to improve the notability of the page. Appreciate your help!

- Editor 11927 (talk) 02:38, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 12:02, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Subject doesn't appear to have the requisite WP:SIGCOV to meet the WP:GNG. Notability is not inherited from his cousin. May just be a bit WP:TOOSOON. Let'srun (talk) 16:44, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify Subject has already gained significant coverage in United in Focus which I have argued above is a professionaly run site with editorial oversight and is independent of the subject. He does however lack significant coverage from other publications so draftifying seems to be the best course of action considering he likely will gain such coverage in the near future. Alvaldi (talk) 16:01, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Charbel Shamoon

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WP:SPORTBASIC says achieved success in a major international competition at the highest level and I think it is WP:TOOSOON to say that is so for this obviously promising player. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:14, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Player is notable at international level and is a regular starter for a team in the highest level of Australian football which itself is a notable league. Keep, is not WP:TOOSOON Nzs9 (talk) 15:22, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – There appears to be WP:SIGCOV with the sources already mentionedin the article. Svartner (talk) 20:41, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Multiple sources mentioned in the article and there is plenty of detail. Charbel also has started nearly every game in the Australian top flight this season, has played for the Iraq U20 team and has been called up for a training camp for the Australian U23 team as well. Ausfootballfan (talk) 21:06, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep per sources already present which appear to show notability. Giant Snowman 11:59, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Neeraj Doneria

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Non-notable BLP. Lacks significant coverage Wp:SIGCOV in multiple independent WP:INDEPENDENT reliable sources WP:RS. Zuck28 (talk) 11:43, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Leader of an organization with over 10 million members. (As per India TV https://www.indiatvnews.com/uttar-pradesh/bajrang-dal-neeraj-doneria-claims-its-members-saved-86-lakh-cows-from-being-slaughtered-love-jihad-against-hindu-woman-muslim-up-news-2023-05-28-873040) 𝐋𝐨𝐫𝐝𝐕𝐨𝐥𝐝𝐞𝐦𝐨𝐫𝐭𝟕𝟐𝟖🧙‍♂️^{Let's Talk !} 04:08, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jim_Leisy

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I believe Jim Leisy fails the WP:GNG criteria. Not enough independent secondary sourcing to prove notability.

The majority of the article is unsourced self-promotion. According to the one reference in the article the artist won a 'Caldera Gold Spot Award' but I can find no explanation of what that is or how notable it might be. He also has a work catalogued by the Smithsonian https://www.si.edu/object/solar-eclipse:nasm_A20170021000 that was gifted by the artist.

Additionally, there appears to be WP:COI from Leisy himself, creating the page in the first place, removing other editors' issue taggs without fixing issues, and multiple edits of the page under User:Jimleisy.

SallyRenee (talk) 12:19, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Nothing in the Getty ULAN [20], nor much of any mention for a photographer with this name. Nothing in the article shows notability. I don't find any book reviews. Oaktree b (talk) 19:29, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The COI editing doesn't help, but the subject has been deceased for a decade, I don't really think it matters much at this point. Oaktree b (talk) 19:30, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: I have added two references. Leisy meets WP:PHOTOGRAPHER, in particular point 4D: the person´s work has been represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums. The Smithsonian, the Portland Art Museum, among others.Ruud Buitelaar (talk) 03:06, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Works represented in the Smithsonian, Portland Art Museum, and 'National Air and Space Museum' were all gifted by the artist, apart from one at Portland that I could find that was intentionally purchased with funds provided by the Photography Council (Leisy was on the board of directors - so there's clear WP:COI there): https://www.portlandartmuseum.us/mwebcgi/mweb.exe?request=record;id=70706;type=101 SallyRenee (talk) 09:21, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The works may have been donated by the author but the guideline Wikipedia:Notability (people) does not make a distinction between purchased and donated works, so that is not a relevant argument. By the way, it is not at all easy to donate work to museums. Ruud Buitelaar (talk) 03:28, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I am leaning towards delete but not iVoting until I look deeper. I understand the nominator's thoughts about self-donated works in collections, however many institutions would still run a donated work through their acquisitions board; however in the case of the Portland Community College Collection, it's doubtful if they have one. The work in the Houston MFA seems to be donated by another person. The LensScratch article is a good source, however more like that are needed to meet NARTIST and GNG. A GoogleBook search found nothing. Netherzone (talk) 21:22, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - After searching more, I think there is enough for him to meet notability standards. Here's what I found online: a comprehensive obituary: [21], article in LensScratch: [22], a comprehensive narrative about his work in the collection of the Smithsonian's Air & Space Museum [23], he's quoted here as an expert: [24]. These items along with the permanent collections (even tho several were donations by the artist), [25], however the work at the Portland Community College Collection was not donated by him [26], and has a decent narrative: [27]. The COI content or unsourced self-promo can be trimmed from the article; I think he meets notability, not in the strongest sense, but I do think he is notable. Netherzone (talk) 15:14, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Charlotte Barker

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This has existed for 18 years without a single source which is actually about the actor, and I can't find any sources that are actually about her, as opposed to her being mentioned in articles about her father. Black Kite (talk) 11:10, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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OK to delete (and recommend deletion rather than redirect, as there are other people with the same name who may be more notable). There actually are more negative reviews of the play her father wrote for her, like "Daddy's girl could do without his help" in The Financial Times. But these are arguably not really about her (the FT review says things like "on this terrain it is hard to judge how good an actress she is"), and otherwise she is mentioned in passing in her father's obituaries and articles about her fugitive brother facing child porn charges. Does not meet WP:GNG. Cielquiparle (talk) 21:41, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Westballz

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Top esports player who lacks significant coverage to prove notability. The profiles from Red Bull and ESPN are a good start, but the rest are either web articles of questionable reliability or independence (theScore eSports, EventHubs, G2 Esports) or routine coverage of changes in teams / sponsorships. Bridget (talk) 20:36, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - These two ESPN sources [28], [29], the Red Bull source [30], as well as published unauthorized biography [31] probably pushes the subject over the edge in terms of notability. 14:00, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
Thanks Pbrks, were you able to find more info about the book or its author and publisher? The lack of info makes it look a bit suspect, and the blurb isn't too useful. Bridget (talk) 14:40, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ghazi Shahzad

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Does not meet WP:NPOL since he never won an election, nor does he satisfy WP:GNG, the Anadolu source within the article describes his as "a little-known politician." Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 16:40, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Fail to meet WP:GNG criteria (WP:ANYBIO / WP:NPOL. Limited WP:RS and WP:IS for WP:V. This article is supposed to be WP:BLP. Note: Ghazi Shahzad is a little-known politician ... which question the notability of the article. QEnigma talk 17:26, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. This AfD occurs after User:SheriffIsInTown blanked the (sourced) article and then tried to delete it under WP:BLPPROD claiming it was unsourced. The claim of being a "little-known politician" was also added by SheriffIsInTown just prior to initiating this AfD. Perhaps the result should be a delete but the discussion should not be based on SheriffIsInTown's prejudicial edits. See [32] for the article as it was before SheriffIsInTown started editing to make it worse and then use its badness as an excuse for deletion. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:51, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@David Eppstein Since when removing unsourced content from a BLP content considered "making it worse"? Anadolu source describes the individual as "a little known politician", would you prefer to keep the version which had a lot of unsourced content and rest a total misrepresentation of the sources. I blanked the article because it was a total WP:BLPVIO, I tried to PROD because I wanted to save every one a hassle of an AfD but you saw it as bad faith, really? Also, I have no issue if you want to take time to improve the article and properly source it. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 19:04, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Blanking a sourced article and then saying that because you blanked the sources it should be deleted for having no sources: is that a good-faith attempt to determine whether the article is notable and should be improved or deleted? Editing the first sentence of the article to directly say that the subject is non-notable, and then using that statement of non-notability as the basis for a deletion discussion: is that a good-faith attempt to determine whether the article is notable and should be improved or deleted? As I said, perhaps the article should be deleted. But your actions attempting to get it deleted make it appear that you have predetermined to delete it and are trying any way you can to ram it through, rather than allowing the community to make a fair decision. —David Eppstein (talk) 19:13, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@David Eppstein I should have adjusted the content according to the sources which I did after you removed the PROD tag, I made a mistake to blank it, I thought it was a good idea to do as the lede as well was not sourced and I saw it as a WP:BLPVIO, the presence of the sources within article does not mean that content is actually according to those sources but anyway I will shut up and allow the community to make a decision. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 19:21, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment In English alone there seems to have been more than passing mentions of Shahzad since 2023: described as the head of Tehreek-e-Azaadi Jammu and Kashmir, widespread coverage of his gaol break in June 2024 [33], [34], [35], coverage of attempts to recapture him in November 2024. He was also a candidate in the 2021 Azad Kashmir legislative elections (which by itself is not an indicator of notability, yes, yes), but is likely to mean there's some local coverage of him in Urdu or Kashmiri. Appears to me there should be a merge/redirect AtD here. Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 12:23, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge into Tehreek-e-Azaadi Jammu and Kashmir. PARAKANYAA (talk) 09:31, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Faris Al-Hammadi

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The subject does not meet WP:GNG. The article fails to demonstrate any proof of notability and relies heavily on sources from social media platforms such as X, Instagram, and LinkedIn, which are generally not considered reliable. The few non-social media sources included are either trivial mentions or lack the depth and significance required to establish notability.

Based on my research, and after conducting a WP:BEFORE, I could not find independent, reliable sources that provide in-depth coverage of the subject. While the individual is a social media influencer with a large following, this alone does not suffice to meet Wikipedia's notability standards. ZyphorianNexus (talk) 08:33, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Fail to meet WP:GNG (WP:ANYBIO / WP:CREATIVE). Available sources fail to support WP:V. QEnigma talk 13:49, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. The current sourcing by the author is a major issue, but the subject seems to have relevant prominence with 750k+ followers. Per WP:BEFORE, subject also appears to be related to Hussain Al Hammadi and other UAE gov operatives. OrebroVi (talk) 16:58, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to point out that, per WP:INVALIDBIO, notability is not inherited. A subject's relationship with notable individuals or entities doesn't automatically make them notable. According to the notability guideline, notability is determined by significant, independent, and reliable coverage of the subject, not follower counts.

If you or another editor can provide reliable sources showing significant coverage, the article may be reconsidered. ZyphorianNexus (talk) 23:55, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ML Lather

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The subject fails WP:NBIO, no significant coverage about him in sources. Being a former DGP does not make one inherently notable. - Ratnahastin (talk) 06:59, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Temmie Chang

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This biography of a living person was published with no sources, ~~and is promotional and unencyclopedic in tone~~ but has citations now.A ProQuest search yields 11 hits, all of which are brief mentions of her as a collaborator with Toby Fox and contributor of artwork to his video game, Undertale. A Google search yields more, but these do not meet Wikipedia standards for reliability (see WP:RELIABLESOURCES) and do not contribute to notability in the Wikipedia sense. Does not meet WP:BASIC, let alone WP:GNG. Cielquiparle (talk) 04:53, 28 December 2024 (UTC)Cielquiparle (talk) 08:45, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Escaped Chasm. I've done source searching for her in the past out of curiosity regarding if she could have an article or not. She's not notable, and I don't think an argument could be made for her to pass WP:NARTIST either. So, with that being said, redirect this article to Escaped Chasm, which is a game that she created and actually has an article. λ NegativeMP1 04:57, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Unsourced WP:BLP. Sadly the page history shows this was never close to being adequately sourced. A redirect or merge to Escaped Chasm is not ideal as it doesn't contain biographical information and isn't the thing Chang is most known for, but is better than nothing! ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 21:04, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Meets WP:NCREATIVE #3 as she played a major role in co-creating Undertale as its lead artist and concept artist, which some might call one of the best known indie games ever made without hyperbole, as well as Deltarune with a similar role. If Escaped Chasm is actually notable, it would give further credence to her being a notable creative. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 01:35, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately most of the coverage on Undertale focuses on Toby and mentions Temmie's role only very briefly (plus the fact that there is a creature named after her). Cielquiparle (talk) 02:08, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is completely wrong. Temmie is not regarded as a co-creator of Undertale, and she is only discussed as the artist for that game on the Undertale article (where she is covered in one sentence of the articles body). I also don't think NCREATIVE is valid here because of WP:INHERITED, due to the aforementioned lack of commentary about Temmie Chang's role in the game. There are practically zero reliable sources that discuss her as a person. λ NegativeMP1 02:19, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect per NegativeMP. The page, as is, should be deleted due to the complete absence of sources. Madeleine (talk) 16:40, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. The subject passes Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Basic criteria, which says:
People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject.
- If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability.
Sources
1. Benoit-Gonin, Corentin (2023). L' anomalie Undertale Décryptage d'un Jeu Monstre [The Undertale Anomaly: Decoding a Monster Game] (in French). Namur: Third Éditions. ISBN 978-2-37784-433-3. Retrieved 2024-12-30 – via Google Books.
  The book discusses her on 3.25 pages. The book notes: "TEMMIE CHANG Certes, Undertale représente surtout le fruit de l'imagination de Toby Fox. Mais dire qu'il est le seul artisan du titre est exagéré. Parlons de Temmie Chang, ou Tuyoki, comme elle se fait souvent appeler en ligne. Née en 1993, elle a deux ans de moins que Fox et récolte une part importante des lauriers matérialisés par le jeu. Temmie Chang se découvre une passion pour les univers vidéo-ludiques très tôt, à l'époque où elle regardait son cousin jouer à Breath of Fire, un classique du J-RPG sur Super NES. L'ambiance lui tape dans l'œil, et plus encore le pixel art, tant ce style graphique se révèle capable de convoyer beaucoup d'émotions en montrant très peu. Autour de 2006, elle commence à comprendre qu'il est possible de produire de l'art numérique et de le partager sur Internet, notamment sur un site qui prend de plus en plus d'ampleur, DeviantArt. Sa famille l'encourage à poursuivre dans cette voie, ce qui la pousse à travailler son coup de stylet. En parallèle, d'autres créations pixelisées débarquent en ligne, par exemple les titres de 2004 Yume Nikki et Cave Story - ne vous en faites pas, on va très bientôt recroiser le chemin de ces deux-là dans ce livre – et avec eux de véritables fandoms12 dont les membres fournissent de magnifiques illustrations et de formidables petits métrages d'animation. ... Le refus de cette vision étriquée, mais répandue, de l'art la fait hésiter à se professionnaliser, mais elle opte finalement pour une formation en animation 2D qu'elle suit au Pratt Institute, un établissement à New York."
  From Google Translate: "TEMMIE CHANG Of course, Undertale is mostly the fruit of Toby Fox's imagination. But to say that he is the sole creator of the title would be an exaggeration. Let's talk about Temmie Chang, or Tuyoki, as she often goes by online. Born in 1993, she is two years younger than Fox and reaps a significant share of the game's laurels. Temmie Chang discovered her passion for video game universes very early on, when she watched her cousin play Breath of Fire, a classic J-RPG on Super NES. The atmosphere caught her eye, and even more so pixel art, as this graphic style is capable of conveying a lot of emotion by showing very little. Around 2006, she began to understand that it was possible to produce digital art and share it on the Internet, particularly on a site that was gaining momentum, DeviantArt. Her family encouraged her to continue in this direction, which pushed her to work on her pen stroke. At the same time, other pixelated creations arrived online, for example the 2004 titles Yume Nikki and Cave Story - don't worry, we'll soon cross paths with these two in this book - and with them real fandoms12 whose members provided magnificent illustrations and great short animated films. ... The rejection of this narrow but widespread vision of art made her hesitate to become a professional, but she finally opted for training in 2D animation that she followed at the Pratt Institute, an establishment in New York."
2. Ayub, Simon (2020-11-04). "Temmie Chang: 10 facts you should know about the Undertale animator". Tuko.co.ke. Archived from the original on 2024-12-30. Retrieved 2024-12-30.
  The Reuters Institute for the Study of Journalism said, "In the online space, the digital native Tuko's mix of celebrity, entertainment, and political news with a light touch has proved successful." The article's tone is very positive about Temmie Chang. The article notes: "Temmie Chang was born on April 2, 1993, in Brooklyn, New York. This means that the talented animator is 27 years old as of 2020. The name Temmie was her grandmother's nickname. There is not much information about Temmie Chang’s parents and childhood. However, it is known that she graduated from the Pratt Institute in New York, which is a senior, private non-profit learning centre. Temmie graduated from the institution with a degree in 2D animation. This must have been the stepping stone to her remarkable career achievements in graphic designing and animation."
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Temmie Chang to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".
Cunard (talk) 10:46, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not convinced that Tuko.co.ke is a reliable source. But the book published by Third Editions looks like it could pass. Did you find any other sources? Cielquiparle (talk) 11:16, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The other sources I found were passing mentions. Tuko.co.ke has not been discussed at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard so it is unclear whether it is reliable. In my research, the website shows signs of reliability based on Wikipedia:Reliable sources#News organizations. The website has editorial oversight and editorial standards. The website publishes corrections like this one. Tuko.co.ke has been cited in numerous books such as The Oxford Handbook of Kenyan Politics (Oxford University Press), Kenyan, Christian, Queer: Religion, LGBT Activism, and Arts of Resistance in Africa (Penn State University Press), Understanding the Higher Education Market in Africa (Taylor & Francis), To be Or Not to be: Sudan at Crossroads: a Pan-African Perspective: a Black African Nation Undone by the Ideology of Islamo-Arabism (Mkuki na Nyota), Doing Business in Kenya: Opportunities and Challenges (Taylor & Francis), and Digital Kenya: An Entrepreneurial Revolution in the Making (Palgrave Macmillan). Reuters Institute for the Study of Journalism says on page 156, "Traditional media houses also face competition online from digital-born websites such as Tuku.co.ke, which reaches around 70% of our online sample each week. Much of its content is focused on entertainment and gossip attracting a younger audience. Tuku.co.ke also has a reputation for breaking and frequently updated news, which many older outlets struggle to match." Cunard (talk) 12:01, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tuku.co.ke a gossip website and one of many on the Internet generating clickbait about living people with headlines like the one you've found here ("10 things you didn't know about $LIVING PERSON"). We can take it to the reliable sources noticeboard if you want, but I will remove it from the article for now, as it doesn't seem right for Wikipedia to be legitimizing these gossip/spam sites in biographies of living persons per WP:BLP. Cielquiparle (talk) 03:02, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Changing !vote to keep per WP:HEY. Easily meets WP:BASIC between her biography in the Third Editions book (found by Cunard) and multiple reviews of her own "solo" games in independent secondary sources, including Escaped Chasm and Dweller's Empty Path. All the subjective and unverified information has now been removed from the article, and all the facts that are there have citations. Additional personal details could be added with great care if they can be verified per WP:ABOUTSELF, adhering to the basic rules of WP:BLPSOURCES. Pinging @NegativeMP1, Vrxces, and Madeleine961: for possible reconsideration in light of new sources found and added. Cielquiparle (talk) 08:47, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you very much for expanding the article with additional sources. Even without the Tuko.co.ke source, I agree these additional sources allow Temmie Chang to easily meet WP:NBASIC. Cunard (talk) 14:14, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ehh... I'm still not too convinced. This looks to be a singular paragraph worth of secondary coverage, unless there is something I am missing. λ NegativeMP1 18:06, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - the article is now in much better shape, and I'd consider the sources to be sufficient to establish WP:N for the subject. Cheers, SunloungerFrog (talk) 08:53, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I find the sources linked in this discussion to adequately demonstrate the subject's notability. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 21:51, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep in light of the sourcing provided given WP:HEY. I've struck out the vote above. ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 00:53, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge‎ to Kurdish cinema. Vanamonde93 (talk) 02:01, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Karzan Kardozi

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The director doesn't seem to be famous enough to own an article on Wikipedia. NameGame (talk) 17:32, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Can you define what "doesn't seem famous use Enough?" mean and what standard you go by? If you delete articles by the "doesn't seem famous use Enough?" reason, more than one third of articles in Wikipedia will have to be delete. Naderjamie6 (talk) 17:50, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And how much "Famous" is enough for a Kurdish filmmaker to have its own article on Wiki? Can you provide rules and regulation for such "Fame?" Naderjamie6 (talk) 17:54, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The reason given "doesn't seem to be famous enough" is not enough to have article deleted. The filmmakers is Kurdish, what kind of fame would required by Wikipedia standard to have article listed? Wendy2024 (talk) 18:03, 27 December 2024 (UTC) WP:SOCKSTRIKE Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 19:13, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This article is about a Kurdish Filmmaker and it is important to stay as part of Wikipedia. Citation and required link provided to verify the identity of the filmmaker. If this is deleted, then most of the other article about Kurdish Filmmakers will have to be deleted also if the reason giving is "Not famous enough". Joreannorde (talk) 18:25, 27 December 2024 (UTC) WP:SOCKSTRIKE Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 19:13, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with Kurdish cinema: sources mention him, or his films, so not opposed to keep one page merging them all (see AfDs about 2 of his films, same nominator). See https://qantara.de/en/article/kurdistan-100-stories-future-republic and similar sources (please see Afds about the films) -Mushy Yank. 00:30, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. He has written and directed dozen books and film in Kurdish, in US, UK and Kurdistan, and still active. Also many citation to show him as being known be it in Kurdish or English. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BonitueBera (talk • contribs) 00:33, 29 December 2024 (UTC) WP:SOCKSTRIKE Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 22:22, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I'm not really finding much out there in reliable sources. This, paired with the large amount of sockpuppets, makes me wonder if the director should be mentioned on Wikipedia at all. There are some things like this, but so far it's really slow going. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 15:02, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
'Merge per Mushy Yank. There just isn't much out there about this guy. There are a handful of sources here and there, but not really enough to show firm notability. I do think that he deserves to be mentioned somewhere, so the Kurdish cinema page is a good landing spot. If a non-sockpuppet can find enough sourcing I'm open to being persuaded. As far as the socks go - please stop. This is extremely counterproductive and actually makes it more likely that a page might get outright deleted and the person or topic not mentioned on Wikipedia at all. People will also become far more skeptical of the sourcing as well. The reason for this is that historically, topics plagued with sockpuppetry tend to be more likely to only have coverage in places engaging in paid journalism (ie, the person paid for someone to write about them). I've seen cases where good sources were questioned as unreliable. This is why it's such a bad idea - sometimes it can result in the exact opposite of the intended purpose. Rather than sockpuppetry, it's better to make a strong case with solid sources. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 15:12, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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RJ Sarithiran

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Fails WP:NACTOR, trivial coverage and passing mentions in media. There are zero sources that provide WP:SIGCOV to this personality. Nxcrypto Message 13:31, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to 92.7_Big_FM#RJ_Talent: listed there (mispelled) but not opposed to Keep as his last 2 roles in notable productions seem significant enough,,thus having him meet the minimum requirements for actors. -Mushy Yank. 02:07, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Known for his YouTube pranks [36]. Lacking in terms of sourcing. Film roles don’t seem noteworthy, just passing mentions. DareshMohan (talk) 19:33, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The person has had significant roles in multiple notable films and stage performances, Passes WP:NACTOR. Also The subject has made unique contributions to a field of entertainment. Sources are Secondary which provide the most objective evidence of notability. Meets WP:SIGCOV. Tiger-in-Action (talk) 06:47, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
WP:VAGUEWAVE at policies will not help your case. "Also The subject has made unique contributions to a field of entertainment." What? Nxcrypto Message 07:20, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Bobo Ajudua

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One major problem is that this creation is likely a paid contribution that is undisclosed. The citations are evaluated based on this version as follows;

Citation 1 is a paid promotional puff and also a falsehood, especially when it said Ajudua’s impact is particularly evident in his work with Davido. He played a key role as a co-writer for “NA MONEY,” a track from Davido’s Timeless album that features The Cavemen and Angelique Kidjo. There is, as a matter of fact, no credit on anyone such as Bobo Ajudua if you check any of your streaming platforms for the single "Na Money" by Davido, and this alone is ridiculous and makes this whole thing iffy.

Citation 2 does is not only a paid puff but does not provide the substantial coverage we require to pass WP:GNG.

Citation 3 is not only an unreliable source, it lacks a byline and, even if it does have a byline, does not provide the substantial coverage required to satisfy WP:GNG.

Citation 4 is not only a run of the mill piece, it lacks a byline and fails WP:SIGCOV.

Citation 5 from marginally reliable Vanguard does nothing but promotes and praises the subject such that only one or two useful information is passed. Take a look at the ridiculous line breaks while scrolling through the piece.

Citation 6 is just like Citation 5 above, does nothing but praises the subject ridiculously such the nothing notable is passes as an information. Over the years, he has cultivated a reputation for his thorough understanding of corporate law, intellectual property, and entertainment law. His expertise ensures that artists, creatives, and brands are not only legally protected but also strategically positioned for sustainable growth. What is the job of an entertainment lawyer? How is this anybody's business? What's notable about ensuring his clients are strategically positioned for sustainable growth?

Citation 7 is yet another paid puff about his brands that are doing nothing but their job, and in this context, lacks the substantial coverage required to satisfy WP:GNG for this subject.

People get sacked from their jobs everyday, what is notable about the subject being sacked?

What is Wikipedia's business with whether the father attended the subject's wedding or not?

Every other source I skipped are just as bad as the ones I already evaluated. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 10:10, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Subject hasn't suddenly become notable since the last time this was discussed. --Richard Yin (talk) 10:29, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Striking my vote since the reliability of Nigerian news outlets, which have covered the subject in some depth, is subject to an ongoing discussion in which I don't have an opinion. --Richard Yin (talk) 12:22, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Most of the sources here are used to verify informations and not as a means of promotion. There are sources which you have discarded simply because they were worded in a way that you do not like and I wonder when Wikipedia started dictating the tone of sources as I am fully aware that sources are allowed to be biased if they are reliable. The mix up in the PM News articles can be corrected with a simple mail to the editor (as it is standard procedure) and not my fault that the mix up occurred. I’ll present atleast three sources plus the fact that “Hmmm” which is a single in a Grammy nominated album "11:11 (Chris Brown album)" was co-written by Ajudua. This information was definitely not available in the last discussion. Ahola .O (talk) 18:06, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia started dictating the tone of sources! since Wikipedia:Neutral point of view existed and plus this is not the place for trivia and gossip (see WP:NOTGOSSIP), like really, why would we care whether the father attended the subject's wedding or not.

This is a biographies of a living person, so we need to be even more careful when it comes to writing and sourcing. FuzzyMagma (talk) 11:10, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:YESPOV shows that articles could be non-neutral and our responsibility as editors is to present these views as neutral as possible. When it comes to being biased, I believe articles can be biased too per WP:RSBIAS; unless I’m interpreting the policies wrong.

The article about the father being absent is a celebrity article but I used it because it gives context into the married. Ahola .O (talk) 12:02, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You are, in fact, misunderstanding and misinterpreting them. I couldn’t even comprehend what your view of NPOV and reliable sourcing is. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 12:18, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What do you not understand? Every source must not follow Wikipedia’s policies as each outlets has its own style of writing. Again, I ask, are we dictating that the tone of sources even when they have bylines are no evidence that they were sponsored? I think you are the one who does not understand WP:NPOV here. Also, if there are promotionals tone that I must have mistakenly added, is deletion the avenue for it? Ahola .O (talk) 12:25, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep Sources show that the subject is notable.:

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Keep. There are sources that were not available in the last discussions. This one from PM News was published in April, 2023; this from Nigerian Tribune where they called him a pioneer] was published in 2022 and contrary to Vanderwaalforces that this is just passing mentions, this has some information on him; this from TheNEWS has an in-depth coverage on his company(ies). was published in July 2023; this from The Guardian was published in November 2023; this from Daily Times was published in 2024; This from Vanguard (which has been labelled a marginal reliable) has a byline and can be used to establish some notability. I believe that these sources meet the WP:GNG because 1) they are independent of the subject 2) has indepth coverage 3) are reliable 4) has demonstrated independent coverage. If anyone thinks otherwise, I would change my mind if there are evidence and not just there words ie some citations.

Ajudua is a co-writer of a Grammy nominated album 11:11 which meets WP:NCOMPOSER #1 and #4. This information is verifiable on every music streaming platform. Ahola .O (talk) 15:50, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that most of these sources taken together can arguably count as in-depth coverage, but I'd also like to note here that the reliability of most Nigerian news outlets is the subject of an ongoing discussion above my pay grade. I'll strike my vote above since I don't have an opinion on the reliability of these sources.

I will point out though that the subject is not co-writer of a Grammy-nominated album, he is co-writer of one track on a Grammy-nominated album. Most of the co-writers listed in 11:11 (Chris Brown album) don't have articles. --Richard Yin (talk) 12:21, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The sources I had shown above shows that the Ajudua has coverages since 2022 or thereabout and I am sure that an extensive search will definitely show more.

I am not basing the notability here with just the single track. I am showing that amongst the sources that they meet a criteria there also, atleast #1. Ahola .O (talk) 14:06, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Echoing my last !vote, nothing has changed since November when we last visited with an AFD about this person. I don't see notability based on the sources, which, as explained, are all puff or PR items. Oaktree b (talk) 00:59, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Oaktree b above. The new sources mentioned above appear to be simply fresh paid puff pieces and interviews, and being fired by a celebrity client is at best WP:BLP1E. His involvement in notable projects has been minor: for example, as noted above he co-wrote one song on an album nominated for a Grammy. None of this quite brings it over the line for WP:BIO. Wikishovel (talk) 19:30, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Maulana Shakhawat

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Fails to fulfill WP:NPOL and Wp:GNG.–𝐎𝐰𝐚𝐢𝐬 𝐀𝐥 𝐐𝐚𝐫𝐧𝐢 ʕʘ̅͜ʘ̅ʔ 15:17, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Putra Adhiguna

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I am unable to find any independent coverage of this BLP. The 15 sources cited in the article are author listings, biography listings, interviews, articles written by the subject, alumni listings, coverage from events, seminars, conferences, summits and more interviews. It is unclear what makes the subject notable or what their contributions are which could be used to assess whether any SNG is met. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 14:57, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. No WP:SIGCOV in the sources. ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 23:39, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dear editor, this below is planned to be add to outline his contribution to the energy transition field. Look forward to your advice whether this will be sufficiently relevant. Thank you.

Putra has made notable contributions to research on Southeast Asia's energy transition. His research expertise spans various aspects of the energy transition, including in outlining the key enablers and challenges for Carbon Capture and Storage (CCS) technology application (1), critical transition minerals sourcing and related industrial developments (2), as well as key factors to drive Indonesia’s energy transition (3)(4).

His perspectives on the energy sector have been regularly featured in major news outlets in the region, covering wide-ranging topics in energy such as gas investments in Southeast Asia (5), Singapore’s clean energy imports (6), and regional green energy cooperation in ASEAN (7).

His research works have also been cited in publications such as the International Energy Agency (IEA) report on Enhancing Indonesia’s Power System (8), RAND Corporation report on China’s Role in the Global Development of Critical Resources (9) and an article in Communications Earth & Environment journal (A part of Nature journal) titled The viability of co-firing biomass waste to mitigate coal plant emissions in Indonesia (10)

He was part of the team of international peer reviewers for the IEA report titled An Energy Sector Roadmap to Net Zero Emissions in Indonesia (11) and his insights and contribution has been acknowledged in International Institute for Sustainable Development publication titled Boom and Bust: The fiscal implications of fossil fuel phase-out in six large emerging economies (12)

(1) https://ieefa.org/resources/carbon-capture-southeast-asian-market-context-sorting-out-myths-and-realities-cost

(2) https://energyshift.institute/work/0-4-of-global-battery-production-capacity-indonesias-battery-and-ev-developments-are-far-out-of-step-with-its-nickel-exploitation-promise/

(3) https://ieefa.org/resources/indonesia-wants-go-greener-pln-stuck-excess-capacity-coal-fired-power-plants

(4) https://ieefa.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Indonesias-Biomass-Cofiring-Bet_February-2021.pdf

(5) https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/gas-investments-in-se-asia-undermine-green-energy-climate-push-report

(6) https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/st-explains-s-pore-announced-more-ambitious-clean-import-targets-what-would-this-mean-for-our-energy-transition

(7) https://www.chinadailyhk.com/hk/article/583121

(8) https://iea.blob.core.windows.net/assets/247b5328-2cd7-4fbb-a800-dd1c71f6e562/EnhancingIndonesiasPowerSystem.pdf

(9) https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/research_reports/RRA2000/RRA2096-1/RAND_RRA2096-1.pdf

(10) https://www.nature.com/articles/s43247-024-01588-0

(11) https://www.iea.org/reports/an-energy-sector-roadmap-to-net-zero-emissions-in-indonesia

(12) https://www.iisd.org/system/files/2022-07/fossil-fuel-phase-out-briics-economies.pdf

**Viewpoints and research

*Carbon Capture and Storage*

Putra’s view on Carbon Capture and Storage (CCS) technology is that it will not be easily deployed in cost-sensitive regions such as Southeast Asia (13). However, more affluent countries, such as Singapore or Japan, might be interested in exporting their carbon dioxide emissions to countries that can provide storage locations (14). Nevertheless, he advocated that such export activities will require stringent standards with clear long term liability agreements (15) (16).

(13) https://ieefa.org/articles/widespread-adoption-carbon-capture-utilization-and-storage-technologies-south-east-asia

(14) https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/singapore-japan-sign-agreement-to-collaborate-on-carbon-capture-and-storage-tech

(15) https://asia.nikkei.com/Opinion/Japan-cannot-make-CO2-disappear-just-by-exporting-it

(16) https://www.thejakartapost.com/business/2024/05/27/new-rules-set-to-kick-start-japanese-co2-exports-to-ri.html

*Critical Minerals for the Energy Transition*

His research on critical minerals primarily focused on nickel development and the battery and electric vehicle industry (2). He has advocated for more ambitious industrial developments to further enhance the role of producing countries in the battery and electric vehicle value chain (2).

Putra has also raised significant concerns about the low social and environmental standards of nickel development in Indonesia, including its implications for indigenous populations (17) and the potential use of forced labour (18). He has urged the government to conduct transparent assessments and implement improvements in these areas, as he outlined in his interviews with BBC News and Voice of America (17) (18).

(17) https://www.bbc.com/indonesia/articles/c1e5x2k7kp8o

(18) https://www.voaindonesia.com/a/amerika-serikat-masukkan-nikel-indonesia-ke-daftar-pekerja-paksa-/7816453.html

His expertise on critical minerals in Southeast Asia is evident from his interviews featured in prominent international publications such as The New York Times (19), Barron’s (20), NPR (21), The Straits Times (22), Channel News Asia (23) and Bloomberg news (24)

(19) https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/18/business/indonesia-nickel-china-us.html

(20) https://www.barrons.com/news/indonesia-bets-on-se-asia-s-first-battery-plant-to-become-ev-hub-8328fe72

(21) https://www.npr.org/2024/02/13/1231061492/a-leading-candidate-for-president-in-indonesia-wants-the-country-to-increase-coa

(22) https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/indonesia-set-to-become-ev-battery-battleground

(23) https://www.channelnewsasia.com/watch/indonesias-industrialisation-has-fallen-short-its-regional-peers-analyst-4122381

(24) https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/business/international/2024/10/17/indonesias-fixer-in-chief-bows-out-as-prabowo-takes-the-helm/

*Trump election, China and Southeast Asia’s Energy Transition*

With the recent election of Trump as President of the United States, Putra has shared his views on its impact toward the Southeast Asia’s energy transition in Asia's prominent news outlet, Nikkei Asia. According to him, Trump's withdrawal from international climate agreements will have a notable impact on climate diplomacy in Southeast Asia's energy transition, although its effect on energy investments in the region will likely remain limited. (25)

In separate publications featured in China's major news outlets, Caixin and China Daily, he argued that Trump's rise to power would likely create a larger role for China in Southeast Asia's energy transition (26) (27). Major Southeast Asian countries, such as Indonesia, stand to benefit significantly from increased engagement with China due to its capacity for rapid investment deployment. However, raising the standards of Chinese overseas investments remains essential. (27) Prior, he has also commented on Xinhua News how China’s coal provinces and their rapid industrial development toward clean energy can also provide inspirations for coal reliant economies to transition to greener industries (28)

(25) https://asia.nikkei.com/Opinion/How-Trump-might-shake-up-Southeast-Asia-s-clean-energy-transition

(26) https://www.caixinglobal.com/2024-12-06/commentary-will-a-trump-presidency-give-china-a-bigger-role-in-southeast-asias-energy-transition-102265317.html

(27) https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202412/10/WS67579329a310f1265a1d1fb0.html

(28) https://english.news.cn/20240917/b74ec11d54c244978a5b866ba286716f/c.html

*Indonesia’s energy Transition*

Putra has also been a notable voice in outlining the key enablers and challenges in Indonesia’s energy transition. This includes highlighting the considerations for the use of biomass to generate electricity on Reuters (29) and International Monetary Fund Finance & Development Magazine (30). He has also shared his views on Indonesia’s role in the climate and energy transition in international events held by the University of Maryland (31) in College Park and United States - Indonesia Society in Washington DC (32).

His views on the use of biomass and nuclear energy in Indonesia has been featured in Channel News Asia’s feature documentary titled “Power to the People – Bioenergy” (33) and “Insight - Will Indonesia Go Nuclear” (34).

His work while at IEEFA covering the plan for the use of Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG) for Indonesia’s power generation (35) has been cited by Indonesia’s Corruption Eradication Commission report on its Corruption Vulnerability Assessment (Kajian kerentanan korupsi) (36).

He has also advocated the need to transition to greener energy in the islands of the archipelago, as outlined in an Associated Press article (34). Putra has also emphasized the need to optimize international assistance such as the $20 billion funding by U.S. and its allies (35) and anticipate energy consumption growth and emissions in new sectors such as the data centres (36).

(29) https://www.reuters.com/article/business/energy/feature-betting-on-bamboo-indonesian-villages-struggle-to-source-safe-green-po-idUSL8N2LU4I6/

(30) https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/fandd/issues/2022/12/country-case-indonesia-solar-future-jacques

(31) https://cgs.umd.edu/events/indonesias-climate-future-land-energy-and-governance-open-forum-discussion

(32) https://usindo.org/feature/special-open-forum-discussion-on-indonesias-climate-future-land-energy-and-governance/

(33) https://www.channelnewsasia.com/watch/power-people/bioenergy-4439271

(34) https://www.channelnewsasia.com/watch/insight-2022-2023/will-indonesia-go-nuclear-3029031

(35) https://www.kpk.go.id/id/publikasi-data/kajian/kerentanan-korupsi-program-gasifikasi-pembangkit-listrik-pt-pln

(36) https://apnews.com/article/business-indonesia-g-20-summit-bali-climate-and-environment-a73dcbcb60d9a42904f7d81025b5feac

(37) https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-allies-announce-20-billion-package-to-wean-indonesia-off-coal-11668503675

(38) https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/economics/article/3235499/dark-clouds-ahead-indonesias-emissions-surge-asias-need-data-centres-singapores-offshore-push 222.124.125.10 (talk) 06:52, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep I think they might meet criteria 7 of WP:NPROF. NPROF applies to anyone involved in scholarly research, so I think Adhiguna's roles at policy research think tanks qualify them to be considered under NPROF. Criteria 7 is that the subject must have "had a substantial impact outside academia in their academic capacity", and it notes that being "frequently quoted in conventional media as an academic expert" may qualify. Adhiguna is clearly very widely quoted as an expert on the Indonesian energy transition, including in publications like the NYT, BBC and WSJ. They also seem to have had a significant impact outside of academia by using their scholarly research to inform Indonesian policymaking, including contributing to some influential reports like the IEA one and being a regular columnist on the energy transition for one of Indonesia's largest newspapers. I agree that they definitely don't meet WP:GNG, but I think they make a reasonable case under criteria 7 of WP:NPROF as an influential subject-matter expert. MCE89 (talk) 00:16, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Can you please list their 'substantial impact' and explain how they are 'very widely quoted as an expert' after you have actually read the articles from the NYT, BBC and WSJ? Also, please clarify how you determined that these quotes have meaningful impact? I believe they are merely routine/run of the mill statements. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 04:51, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I did read the articles. I'm not sure what you mean by routine/run of the mill statements - they are pretty clearly being quoted by each of these publications in their capacity as a subject matter expert, which is exactly what is described under 7(a) of WP:NPROF. As I said, I'm not claiming that any of these articles constitute SIGCOV or that the subject meets WP:GNG, but as someone engaged in "scholarly research" all that needs to be established is that they meet one of the seven criteria under NPROF. I think the most applicable criteria is that they have "had a substantial impact outside academia in their academic capacity", which may be satisfied if they are "frequently quoted in conventional media as an academic expert in a particular area" (note "quoted" - I'm aware that they are not a major focus of any of the articles, but they are certainly widely quoted as an expert on the Indonesian energy transition). So the reason I think they meet criteria 7 is that (a) they have been widely quoted in prominent international media outlets, including the WSJ, NYT, BBC, Reuters etc., as an expert in their area of research, satisfying 7(a) of NPROF, and (b) they have clearly influenced Indonesian policymaking in their area of research, as demonstrated by being cited or consulted on various government projects and publications. MCE89 (talk) 05:36, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
So, TLDR: you actually don’t have anything meaningful or substantial to show from the NYT, BBC or WSJ articles? Instead, you’ve decided to explain NPROF#7 to me. Fascinating, but I’m still waiting for evidence of this so called ‘significant impact’.

Let's take the NYT example: Putra Adhiguna says “One way or another, Europe and the U.S. will need Indonesia nickel" and "They should be coming to this country figuring out how they can do it better." This is just a routine interview byte as he was part of Institute for Energy Economics and Financial Analysis.. They almost always comment on everything and that’s why this falls under routine coverage.

The entire article reads like a collection of his viewpoints and arguments - Putra Adhiguna emphasized this, Putra Adhiguna shared his views on that, Putra Adhiguna argued this, Putra Adhiguna commented on that - just a series of views, emphasizes, comments and arguments. Yet, there’s nothing about the work he has done or his achievements, because there aren’t any. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 07:33, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe tone it down a bit? My point was just that all of those articles are very standard examples of what it looks like when an expert in a particular field is quoted in the mainstream press about their area of expertise, which is exactly what 7(a) describes. Yes, it's a routine interview bite, but that's what "quoted in conventional media as an academic expert" is describing. I'm not claiming that any of these sources are SIGCOV of Putra Adhiguna, but that's not what's required - NPROF specifically says that researchers may be "notably influential in the world of ideas without their biographies being the subject of secondary sources". It seems like you're applying the GNG standard and asking for secondary SIGCOV of the work he has done and his achievements, but I don't think NPROF requires that at all. What I'm saying is that the fact that he is a public-facing expert who frequently comments in the international press, writes for major Indonesian newspapers and seems to have some measurable influence on policymaking processes in Indonesia is enough to show that he is "notably influential in the world of ideas" per NPROF, even without the secondary SIGCOV that would be needed to meet GNG.

We're in agreement about the absence of SIGCOV though and I don't think this is particularly productive, so let's maybe leave it there? MCE89 (talk) 08:53, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Without concrete examples of specific policies shaped by his work or recognition within academic or policy circles, it’s hard to see how his routine media mentions meet the bar set by NPROF. It seems more like he was quoted in conventional media as a person working for the Institute for Energy Economics and Financial Analysis rather than as an academic expert. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 09:31, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sukhdev Singh Gogamedi

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He got the attention in news media when he was allegedly shot by notorious gangster Lawrence Bishnoi gang and he was also a president of state level organisation i.e., Shree Rashtriya Rajput Karni Sena. But we do not create pages for presidents of caste based state organisations like Rajasthan Jat Mahasabha or Rajput Karni Sena of Rajasthan. If you see the sources then in almost all sources it is about “he shot by bishnoi gang”. I think he fails WP:GNG because he got attention only due to single event of being shot by alleged notorious gangster. TheSlumPanda (talk) 12:40, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Coverage of the subject in either English or Hindi centers exclusively around his murder and is concentrated within the time frame of December 2023 to January 2024. The subject would fall under WP:1E, which states that "When the role played by an individual in the event is less significant, and little or no other information is available to use in the writing of a balanced biography, an independent article may not be needed." Tutwakhamoe (talk) 17:29, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Daniel Owiredu

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All the sources fail WP: GNG and the subject of the article does not have the WP:SIGCOV to have a Wikipedia page. The article is ref bombed with press releases with two sentences getting up to 7 references. Ibjaja055 (talk) 02:12, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: @Ibjaja055, I disagree with the assertion that the subject does not pass WP:GNG and lacks WP:SIGCOV. The subject has indeed received significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. Below are some examples:
Robertjamal12 ~🔔 10:49, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Robertjamal12 Thank you for providing all these sources. Prior to nomination of this article, I have gone through all the sources used in the article and additional ones available online. Almost all the sources cannot count toward WP: GNG. Since you have brought these sources up, that should have been the best of them all. Let's do a brief analysis of them.
1st source is a press release about his stepping down as executive officer of Golden star resources and the ascension of a new person. The article is all about the new Chairman, Mr Crew rather than him.

2nd source A press release dismissing allegation against him and lack a significant coverage of him.

3rd source: A source about a non notable award presented to him and also lacked significant coverage.

4th source: Another news report about his allegations without significant coverage.

5th source: This looks like a WP:GNG source but can we use one WP:GNG to establish notability?Ibjaja055 (talk) 20:33, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: One GNG worthy source cannot establish notability. All other sources are press releases and they lack significant coverage. Ibjaja055 (talk) 20:57, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ibjaja055. I’m still trying to understand what you mean by lack significant coverage . All the sources you provided have significant coverage about the subject. I suggest you review WP:SIGCOV Robertjamal12 ~🔔 22:11, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Robertjamal12 perhaps, you will understand with this. I have broken down each of the sources and you can study my comments alongside the reason why they cannot be used toward WP:GNG. Thank you.

Source assessment table
Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
https://www.myjoyonline.com/executive-vice-president-of-golden-star-resources-daniel-owiredu-re-assigned/	It is a press release about the removal and ascension of the new head.	It is a national daily	It does not discuss the subject directly. It focused on the new head rather than him	✘ No
https://www.modernghana.com/news/719911/gcb-board-chairman-accused.html	A press release dismissing the allegations against him. A statement from the bank...	I Though, it was clarified as unclear here yet I am passing it for this.	It is on the allegations rather than him	✘ No
https://businessghana.com/site/news/business/204438/Accra-Mining-Network-honours-Daniel-Owiredu	A press release about a non notable award	It looked like a National daily though couldn't find it here	It does address the subject directly	✘ No
https://dailyguidenetwork.com/gcb-board-chairman-hot/	Press release about his allegations	It is a national daily	It only focuses on his allegations with little or nothing known about him	✘ No
https://mobile.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/business/Daniel-Owiredu-is-the-mining-personality-of-the-Year-2017-604726	Though, it looked like a press release but written from news media perspective	It is a national daily	It discussed the subject directly and no original research is needed	✔ Yes
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

@Ibjaja055, I disagree with your assessment of the sources provided regarding the subject's notability. Your review appears to misinterpret the criteria for WP:SIGCOV and WP:GNG.

https://www.myjoyonline.com/executive-vice-president-of-golden-star-resources-daniel-owiredu-re-assigned/ - It does not discuss the subject directly. It focused on the new head rather than him. This source explicitly discusses the subject's tenure and contributions before transitioning from his role. It’s a news article, not a press release
https://www.modernghana.com/news/719911/gcb-board-chairman-accused.html - It is on the allegations rather than him. The allegations themselves are significant coverage directly involving the subject
https://dailyguidenetwork.com/gcb-board-chairman-hot/ - It only focuses on his allegations with little or nothing known about him. This source delves into the subject's standing as GCB Board Chairman and his role in addressing the issues.
https://businessghana.com/site/news/business/204438/Accra-Mining-Network-honours-Daniel-Owiredu - It does address the subject directly. - As you stated it does address the subject directly which you are right

In addition to the sources provided, here are a few as well

The subject pass both WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV. None of the sources you assessed as press releases are WP:PRSOURCE and all provide significant coverage of the subject. - Robertjamal12 ~🔔 17:20, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Robertjamal12 After this, I am going to literally drop the stick. Your first additional source and the third source are exactly the same as the first source that I called a press release, word for word. A three independent and reliable news media with the same contents word for word and yet you claimed that the source is not a press release. Indeed we are not dealing with press releases here probably a source farming.

The second and fourth are still about his appointment as the head of an organisation that can't make him notable. At this point, I am dropping the stick. Happy editing!Ibjaja055 (talk) 18:03, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ibjaja055 Thank you for taking the time to review my comments regarding the assessment table above. I believe the subject meets the requirements of GNG. I also respect your decision to drop the stick. Wishing you all the best, and happy editing! — Robertjamal12 ~🔔 18:46, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Here's my analysis of each source so far. The verb tense I used is inconsistent, but irrelevant to notability.

https://www.myjoyonline.com/executive-vice-president-of-golden-star-resources-daniel-owiredu-re-assigned/, https://www.classfmonline.com/business/Golden-Star-s-Daniel-Owiredu-steps-down-as-EVP-5014, and https://ghanaiantimes.com.gh/golden-star-announces-changes-to-management-team/, which count as a single source, are definitely not significant. They have the following information:

On 1 January 2020, Owiredu stepped down as EVP and COO of Golden Star and became chairman of the board of directors of two of the company's subsidiaries.

https://www.modernghana.com/news/719911/gcb-board-chairman-accused.html (reliability: unclear), which I has some criticisms so I don't think it's a press release, has the following:

Owiredu is board chairman of the GCB Bank

He is also chairman of the credit sub-committee

He was blamed for a controversy

He was previously president of the Ghana Chamber of Mines and EVP and COO of Golden Star

https://dailyguidenetwork.com/gcb-board-chairman-hot/ is a different news agency writing about the same event with the same information, so I believe it counts as the same source as the above for WP:GNG purposes:

Owiredu is board chairman of the GCB Bank

He is also chairman of the credit sub-committee

He was blamed for a controversy

He was previously president of the Ghana Chamber of Mines and EVP and COO of Golden Star

https://businessghana.com/site/news/business/204438/Accra-Mining-Network-honours-Daniel-Owiredu has the following information and lists "GNA" as a source (which is unclear as a reliable source):

Owiredu is president and chairman of the local board of directors of Golden Star Resources as of 2020

He is a patron of the Accra Mining Network

He has been in the mining business for more than 30 years as of 2020

He is the former president of the Ghana Chamber of Mines

He is committed to helping communities in mining areas

https://mobile.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/business/Daniel-Owiredu-is-the-mining-personality-of-the-Year-2017-604726 is significant. I won't try to mine that source for information because there's plenty. Its reliability is unclear, but usually high enough for notability purposes.

https://www.modernghana.com/news/23708/owiredu-appointed-md-of-agc.html seems significant. It seems quite promotional, but I'm not sure if it's a press release. Again, reliability is unclear.

Owiredu is the managing director of SAG

He became managing director of ASC's Obuasi Mine

He attended Adisadel College, Kwame Nkrumah University of Science and Technology in Kumasi, University of Strathclyde

He is a mechanical engineer

He joined ASC as an engineer in 1984

He became chief engineer underground after almost 17 years

He helped with the AMEP, which helped turn ASC into a multinational company

He became manager of ASC's Bibiani Gold Project in 1996

"Experts" think his appointment is a good idea

https://www.myjoyonline.com/daniel-owiredu-promoted-to-evpcoo-of-golden-star/ is insignificant and almost certainly a press release, just copy/paste the first paragraph into a google search

Owiredu became EVP and COO of Golden Star on 1 January 2014

He was president of the Ghana Chamber of Mines

I'll hold off on !voting for now.

Regards, PrinceTortoise (he/him • poke • inspect) 10:37, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My threshold for significant coverage will be "Can I write 50 words about Owiredu using this source?" Per the WP:SIZERULE, we should try to get stubs over 150 words. And I look for three reliable sources as a minimum unless there are two extraordinary sources. So 50 words per source.

Source assessment table prepared by [[User:PrinceTortoise]]
Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
Three stepping down as EVP sources	These seem like press releases. Several different publications have very similar wording but conflicting or absent indications of the original source.	Myjoyonline is the second-most trusted new website in Ghana, and there is no reason a press release would be wrong in this case.	The source does not discuss the subject in detail.	✘ No
Modern Ghana "GCB Board Chairman Accused"	Expresses criticisms, so probably not a press release.	Claims editorial oversight, cites the Daily Guide as its source.	Can't contribute as a unique source because it is based on the Daily Guide article.	✘ No
Daily Guide "GCB Board Chairman Hot"	Expresses criticisms, so probably not a press release.	Major newspaper, so hopefully reliable.	The article discusses the subject directly, especially towards the end, and with sufficient detail.	✔ Yes
Business Ghana "Accra Mining Network honours Daniel Owiredu" but see [37] for more information on source	Probably not if Accra Mining also published it.	If it's not independent, then it would be strange if it were unreliable.	Not enough encyclopedic information.	✘ No
Ghana Web "Daniel Owiredu is the mining personality of the Year 2017"	Claims that a journalist wrote this, no evidence of being a press release.	reliable enough on uncontroversial topics	The article discusses the subject directly and in detail.	✔ Yes
Modern Ghana "Owiredu appointed MD of AGC"	Cites Graphic, though I can't find the original source.	Claims editorial oversight, and assuming "Graphic" refers to the Daily Graphic, reliable	The article discusses the subject directly and in detail.	✔ Yes
My Joy Online "Daniel Owiredu promoted to EVP/COO of Golden Star"	Identical promotional articles are found all over the internet.	second-most trusted news website in Ghana	Not enough encyclopedic information.	✘ No
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I think that's three sources contributing to meeting the general notability guideline. Keep. PrinceTortoise (he/him • poke • inspect) 22:09, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Deborah L. Turbiville

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A person only notable for one event. And, per WP:CRIM, she is not well known, and the motivation for her crime does not appear unusual. {{Sam S|💬|✏️|ℹ️}} 04:33, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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•I agree that this page is not relevant and should be deleted — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1702:4E3C:CC10:0:0:0:1F (talk) 04:41, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to an event-specific page. The event seems to pass WP:NCRIME guidelines, with in-depth coverage from reliable local and national news sources like CNN and NYT. While the person is not notable, I see no reason why the information about the event can't be kept. Jordano^5³ 07:43, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Possible targets include: History of vice in Texas, Crime in Houston, Brothel#United States, Prostitution in the United States#21st century {{Sam S|💬|✏️|ℹ️}} 04:05, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I believe the first article listed to be the best, as it has more instances of specific events and incidents than the others. Fitting in this story would likely be easiest there. Jordano^5³ 06:30, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per WP:CRIM. The article states that the subject was arrested, but not what happened after that. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 08:26, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I'm not seeing WP:SUSTAINED coverage for the crime itself, just a single news cycle. This article falls under BLP1E and should not be merged anywhere. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 01:32, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. WP:NPOL indeed does not apply here, and the source analysis shows that WP:GNG has not been met. asilvering (talk) 00:26, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Malik Basintale

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Fails all ramifications of WP:NPOL and a cursory search does not help. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 21:04, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Fails WP:NPOL. Ibjaja055 (talk) 10:36, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: This does not fail WP:NPOL subject is the Deputy Communications Officer of the largest opposition party in Ghana who have currently won elections in Ghana. And he played a critical role in his party getting into power. There are so many third party sources about him and his work. User:Owula kpakpo (talk) 13:44, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Owula kpakpo being Deputy Communications Officer of the largest opposition party in Ghana who have currently won elections in Ghana. And he played a critical role in his party getting into power does not satisfy the criteria. WP:NPOL clearly stated that Politicians and judges who have held international, national, or (for countries with federal or similar systems of government) state/province–wide office, or have been members of legislative bodies at those levels are notable. This also applies to people who have been elected to such offices but have not yet assumed them. Ibjaja055 (talk) 11:55, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So when they say has held National Office you think being elected deputy communication officer of the biggest opposition party in Ghana now the Party elect is not a national position? Or to you national should be government appointment? I don't think that is what satisfying notability is all about. Mind you we can survey 100 Ghanaian Wikipedia editors about this subjects notability in Ghana something you lack context about. Owula kpakpo (talk) 15:27, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Owula kpakpo, NPOL is about elected politicians in government offices. You do not understand how NPOL works if you think otherwise. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 17:33, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Reading Beans, I disagree with your assertion. WP:NPOL is not limited to only elected politicians in government offices as your statement suggests. I encourage you to review it for a better understanding. -- Robertjamal12 ~🔔 17:24, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Robertjamal12, This political figure does not have significant coverage about themselves. Please read the note appended on WP:NPOL. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 17:32, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Per your statement NPOL is about elected politicians in government offices which I disagree. Also significant coverage here , here, here and here, which you can look up -- Robertjamal12 ~🔔 17:41, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Owula kpakpo Thank you for that question. National position of the WP:NPOL means the office of the head of state or head of government, members of the national legislatures, cabinet ministers and other key national roles which included Supreme Court Justices. There is no need to carry out any survey in Ghana, no original research is needed for notability. You can read it up here. I firmly believe that a deputy communication officer, not even the president, vice president, secretary, or communication officer, but a deputy communication officer does not fall into the national position stipulated in WP:NPOL. Ibjaja055 (talk) 18:10, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ibjaja055, per WP:NPOL, major local political figures who have received significant press coverage are also presumed notable. It is not limited to heads of state, members of national legislatures, cabinet ministers, or Supreme Court justices. -- Robertjamal12 ~🔔 17:16, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Robertjamal12, the subject doesn’t meet NPOL, so, we are left with just GNG—which the sources does not demonstrate here. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 17:29, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Which you definedWP:NPOL as NPOL is about elected politicians in government offices.? -- Robertjamal12 ~🔔 17:32, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please read above. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 17:34, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: I believe strongly that the subject passes WP:GNG. A search on the subject shows that there are several sources on him. Ampimd (talk) 23:58, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ampimd Yes, there are sources but most of the sources are either interview of how ladies should leave him in peace because he is in a relationship, press releases about his party's election which can be seen here and here. A two independent news media with the same contents, word for word. The rest here, here and here are either interview or press release. Ibjaja055 (talk) 12:15, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: The !keep voters has not provided any source to backup their claim of GNG. The criteria for NPOL isn’t clearly met here. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 17:12, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: per nom and it will be challenging to establish the reliability of the sources included in the article per WP:BURDEN.FuzzyMagma (talk) 10:05, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Which of the sources or references used can the reliability cannot be established name them so we can respond appropriately to it. Owula kpakpo (talk) 15:29, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
let's start with Graphic Online, Adam Online, GhanaWeb, and joy Online FuzzyMagma (talk) 10:38, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@FuzzyMagma, the sources you’ve mentioned—Graphic Online, Adom Online, GhanaWeb, and Joy Online—are some of the most trusted and widely recognized media outlets in Ghana. They are frequently cited as reliable sources. Could you clarify why you believe these sources are not reliable? -- Robertjamal12 ~🔔 16:55, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Citation needed FuzzyMagma (talk) 18:49, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can you clarify? Robertjamal12 ~🔔 19:07, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, but a soft delete. A high ranking party official of the party in power may be notable even if they don't meet WP:NPOL, but I don't think the current article is quiet there. TulsaPoliticsFan (talk) 16:54, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Exactly. We would judge the article using GNG but it the subject does not meet the criteria. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 17:26, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: According to the WP:NPOL, major local political figures who have received significant press coverage are presumed notable, even if they do not hold national office. Also the subject passes WP:GNG with some significant coverage here , here, here and here-- Robertjamal12 ~🔔 17:48, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: After going through the sources in the article, and a WP:BEFORE, I'm not convinced that this article meets WP:GNG or even WP:NPOL Comr Melody Idoghor (talk) 18:28, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Deputy communications officer is an office job, not an elected position. I'm not seeing notability for this individual. Oaktree b (talk) 00:42, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Oaktree b It is not accurate that a Deputy Communications Officer position is an office job here is an article stating that and the votes he won by in that national election by the National Democratic Party. Owula kpakpo (talk) 18:12, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Owula kpakpo Do you even know the difference between a party election or party primary, so to say, and an actual election where a candidate from all contesting party is elected to a notable position, like a governor, senator or a president? Being elected as a “deputy” communications officer is nothing close to being NPOL-worthy. This subject is far, I mean, very far, from reaching NPOL or even GNG. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 19:09, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Vanderwaalforces, I don't know what you are referring to because I responded to a specific comment and mind you this parties primaries are national in nature consisting of thousands of voters. So if the person says its an office job no the facts don't support that. Owula kpakpo (talk) 19:18, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You clearly have no idea what NPOL is about then. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 21:05, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is what WP:NPOL talks about when you go check it out in the guidelines;

The following are presumed to be notable;
Politicians and judges who have held international, national, or (for countries with federal or similar systems of government) state/province–wide office, or have been members of legislative bodies at those levels. This also applies to people who have been elected to such offices but have not yet assumed them.

Major local political figures who have received significant press coverage.

Just being an elected local official, or an unelected candidate for political office, does not guarantee notability, although such people can still be notable if they meet the general notability guideline.

And this subject meets the second criteria so what exactly about NPOL don't I know about here. Owula kpakpo (talk) 16:00, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: To help Owula kpakpo understand better, why this cannot count as a GNG or NPOL#2 pass.

Source assessment table
Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
https://www.graphic.com.gh/news/politics/malik-basintale-on-why-ladies-should-leave-him-in-peace-because-hes-already-relationship.html	This is a blog about Malik complaining of how ladies are on his neck. Entirely opinionated.	While there was no consensus on whether the paper is reliable in itself, this piece lacks a byline and renders it unreliable for use on English Wikipedia.	Provide literally no substantial coverage about the subject.	✘ No
https://www.modernghana.com/news/1366278/theres-always-victory-for-ndc-when-elections.html	This blog is entirely opinionated.	I don't see a reason to think a site that anyone can register on to post news (UGC) is a reliable source of information for English Wikipedia	Provide literally no substantial coverage about the subject.	✘ No
https://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/NewsArchive/21-year-old-Basintale-emerges-youngest-NDC-regional-executive-681672	We can't tell, this piece lacks a byline and that is very unprofessional of a news org.	Per justification of the independence of this piece, we can't rely on a news piece that lacks a byline.	~ A single paragraph about the subject is insufficient substantial coverage.	✘ No
https://citinewsroom.com/2022/12/ndcdecides-basintale-ako-gunn-elected-deputy-communication-officers/	This is a routine coverage, so, yeah.		Provides literally no substantial coverage to establish WP:GNG.	✘ No
https://www.myjoyonline.com/i-thank-ghanaians-for-taking-power-from-the-npp-malik-basintale/	This piece is entirely dependent on the subject and opinionated.	But this is just one of Joy News' TV coverage or interview of a person, which is WP:ROUTINE.		✘ No
https://www.adomonline.com/meet-21-yr-old-graduate-of-ug-elected-as-ndc-regional-executive/	This is a routine coverage.	Lacks a byline and of course, routine coverage.	A single paragraph about the subject is insufficient substantial coverage.	✘ No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

Vanderwaalforces (talk) 17:44, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Vanderwaalforces Its funny how you lots keeps shifting the goal posts in every response and it shows. Again Graphic.Com.Gh is Ghana's first state run newspaper so to mark it us unreliable shows the bad faith you are have consistently shown with your responses. This will be my last comment on this particular deletion thread because you in particular is acting in bad faith. Bye Owula kpakpo (talk) 21:02, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Owula kpakpo, you are the one acting in bad faith. The source lacks by-line as explained there hence the unreliability of such piece. Reliable sources can publish unreliable sources. Are you new here? Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 05:31, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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No reliable sources are available on google, I also tried searching in Regional languages but got nothing. Fails WP:GNG and WP:ANYBIO. Taabii (talk) 09:40, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. The highlighted individual meet WP:GNG under WP:SNG. A former director of the Indian Institute of Integrative Medicine ([38]) qualify under WP:NPROF and WP:NACADEMIC (#8) criteria. In addition, a search in Google Scholar reveal several scientific articles that have been credited to or published in collaboration with the same individual ([39], [40], [41] and [42]). The article however, require improvement and addition of sources. QEnigma (talk) 15:00, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep. As a former director of IIIM he does not automatically qualify. The staff is about 68 PhD/Dr, with a modest budget of about $0.5M (it goes further in India). Just as a Dean at a university is not automatic, he is not -- but it is a partial notability. In terms of publications his h-factor of 62 is strong, but it is a high citation field. (The 20th person in drug discovery has an h-factor of 118, and it is more an exponential than linear relationship.) The two together just about persuade me that he passes WP:NPROF, the criteria the nom used are not really appropriate. For certain the page needs work.
Delete: I can't find coverage that can clarify his notoriety.. 190.219.101.225 (talk) 03:38, 22 December 2024 (UTC) WP:SOCKSTRIKE Geschichte (talk) 06:11, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Do not pass WP:AUTHOR or even WP:BASIC ― ☪ Kapudan Pasha (🧾 - 💬) 18:18, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I've added a book review from Vogue India and an article from The Hindu on her books. Not too familiar with the English-language media landscape throughout India, but I think there's a good chance there is sufficient coverage that would make this pass WP:NAUTHOR (e.g., book reviews), especially considering the books were published by Penguin (one of the Big Five publishers). Bridget (talk) 01:35, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Bridget Thank you for your efforts. I also conducted a search for relevant sources initially, but I did not find them to meet the notability criteria. Both sources are primarily interview-based descriptions. The piece in Vogue India is a one-time article by Ridhima Sud, and the The Hindu article also revolves around an interview. Neither of these, on their own, can establish notability. While publishing with Penguin is a significant accomplishment, it alone does not satisfy the notability requirements according to Wikipedia's standards. ― ☪ Kapudan Pasha (🧾 - 💬) 15:10, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - fails WP:AUTHOR, interviews are not RS. Deriannt (talk) 19:08, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It depends on the interview / article format and whether or not the article contains facts vetted by a reliable source and observations that were independent of the subject. Cielquiparle (talk) 09:14, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I've added a reference for her job (chief digital officer) and her marriage. I doubt they will make much difference. I'm not casting a vote on this one. Knitsey (talk) 22:44, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. This article is starting to look a lot better than when it was first nominated. Is anyone able to access the Business India article (or provide an archived link to it? Cielquiparle (talk) 09:14, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Looking at the sources, it does not pass WP:GNG even. Mostly all the sources available on google are discussing her replacement in a notable show, see [43], [44], [45]. Taabii (talk) 13:31, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Happu_Ki_Ultan_Paltan#Cast: as the nominator indicates she is best known for that role and coverage attesting of that exists. -Mushy Yank. 10:50, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Happu_Ki_Ultan_Paltan#Cast. Not opposed to Delete. RangersRus (talk) 14:58, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: The actress has worked in multiple notable TV shows, a primary Google search results indicate significant coverage in reliable sources. Zuck28 (talk) 15:37, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Zuck28 Thanks for your comment, for a better understanding i appreciate you to please present those RS here? Happy editing. Taabii (talk) 18:23, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have added a few sources and updated the article, I will try to improve to the article in my free time.

Zuck28 (talk) 18:33, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Now adequately sourced.--Ipigott (talk) 08:47, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ipigott Most of the sources are Interviews, kindly check it. — Taabii (talk) 12:57, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The sources are quite poor and not independent of the subject with claims and interviews. Subject fails the criteria for WP:NACTOR who did not have significant roles in "multiple" notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions; or made unique, prolific or innovative contributions to a field of entertainment. RangersRus (talk) 16:40, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The sources are reliable, and the subject is well-researched with verifiable claims.

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Redirect to Happu_Ki_Ultan_Paltan#Cast: Has only one notable role, so it's more appropriate to redirect, fails WP:NACTOR. I'm also open to deletion, as most sources are interviews (decent coverage, yet do not establish notability).--— MimsMENTOR ^talk 18:32, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. No valid secondary sources to prove WP:GNG. TitCrisse (talk) 02:36, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I can't find anything but interviews for this lady. No independent coverage. She has acted in one TV show, and what looks like an extra(?) in a film. I have done a search (searches from the UK aren't always good these days), I would be happy to re-evaluate my vote if idependent sources can be found. At the moment, this article doesn't demonstrate it complies with WP:GNG.Knitsey (talk) 16:41, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect I agree it should be Redirect to Happu_Ki_Ultan_Paltan#Cast. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hendrea44 (talk • contribs) 01:01, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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