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Mongol name - Russian establishment - controversy

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If the city was built by Russians in the XVI. c, how is it possible that it has a name that no one knows exactly what it means? It suggest me that there was a settlement previously, before the Russians, that has this name Tyumen. But it is not mentioned in the article at all. Why? It is sadly a very usual case on almost all the siberian Russian cities' pages on wiki that they "forget" about the pre-russian history of the cities, as if that era was never existed, and history only stared in the XV. century. Here, talking about a city with a fully mongol name, it is strange to start the article with: "First Russian city in Siberia". How? Why? Do you have an explanation? Could you insert it into the article? Thanx! Zoltan_Bereczki (talk) 19:31, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A lot of toponimous (cities, vilages, rivers, mountains etc) in Ural and Siberia have had Finno-Ugorian or Turkic origins. Tyumen was founded very near of the place where was the Tatar city of Chimgi-Tura, sieged and devasteted by the Russian kozaks. So it was the first Russian city in Siberia, the gate to Siberia for the Russian state. Sciencists have had a loto of hipotesis about, but no one is 100% satisfyingly.--RG72 (talk) 07:47, 10 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Mongolian origin? https://www.warriorsandlegends.com/mongol-warriors/mongol-military-rankings/2A00:23C7:91AB:BC01:7C5F:3CE1:FCC4:E976 (talk) 13:05, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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