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Surname variations

Hi, for anyone interested (not that it matters a lot, to be truthful...., only just when looking for bibliography, particularly in other languages apart from English...), the Villehardouin surname presents several forms (as with many other names, although the one appearing int the Chronicle of Morea could be the "correct" one according to the name of the French commune), including: Villehardonin, De Villehardouin, de Hardouin, de Ville-Hardouin, von Villardouin... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.40.246.129 (talk) 09:13, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No. Villehardonin is nothing but a OCR failure. The OCR program incorrectly reads Villehardonin where it is in fact written Villehardouin, that's all.--Phso2 (talk) 11:07, 28 January 2013 (UTC) By the way, things like this or this are not real books, they are pieces of crap made from bad OCR of ancient books, whose "editors" didn't at least proof-read before selling them. --Phso2 (talk) 11:18, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Here you are, no OCR but exact reproduction, as you can find in other places (I have several books myself that are not OCR but exact copies, from academic sources), but again I agree it is Villehardouin, let's not continue this useless discussion, seriously we have better things to do..... I will leave it here.... https://books.google.co.uk/books/about/Gottfried_Von_Villehardonin.html?id=hlcoSgAACAAJ&redir_esc=y — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.40.246.129 (talk) 17:52, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What you are talking about is supposed to be an exact reproduction of this book from 1860, by some Dr Lucas or Lukas (both variants are to be found in the original book). The so-called editor plainly printed the digitalized version, and entitled it "G von Villehardonin" because it is the (wrong) title that is to be found on GoogleBooks, but the title is "Gottfried von Villehardouin indeed, as you can read on the first page.--Phso2 (talk) 10:12, 31 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]