Talk:List of television manufacturers

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Note on my recent edit of akai: I'm not for certain when akai started making TVs, but it's wasn't 1929,that's for sure. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shadow6461 (talk • contribs) 00:24, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

who makes the tv brand World(TVC----)

Haier is missing from the list — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.36.134.139 (talk) 08:52, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Britannia TVs

There is a link to a brand called Britannia, it links to the article of the Lady which is the anthropomorphic personification of the British Empire. This is not really helpful.--24.77.16.87 (talk) 09:39, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Clean up

This has been tagged for sources for more than a decade. I'm going to clean this up by removing non-notable entries, removing some of the spam that has crept in, and focus on sourcing the dates and claims in the supplemental columns. If anyone has objections, please let me know now. Sam Kuru (talk) 17:43, 29 May 2023 (UTC)

Redundant article?

There's also an article titled List of television production companies. Why do we need two articles? The choice that one article covers both past and present manufacturers while the other one covers only present manufacturers, but sorted by country, seems rather arbitrary to me. Not to mention their confusing naming, which doesn't even distinguishes the two articles at all. If they cover the same topic, I think they should be merged. Both the info if they are a past or present manufacturer and their country of origin can easily be covered in one article. Maxeto0910 (talk) 04:44, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

Both List of television manufacturers and List of television production companies are different, as the name of each one suggests. The first lists companies who have made or still make televisions, as in the electronic devices (like LG, Samsung and Sony), while the second lists companies who produce media for television, such as shows and whole television channels (like Warner Bros., Fox Corporation and Sony Pictures). As you can see, some television manufacturers do in fact have media production wings, such as Sony, although this is more of an exception than a rule; if you pay close attention to the content of each list, the companies featured are seldom in both articles, and when they are, it's for good reason. This is further clarified in the beginning of the articles: List of television manufacturers links to television and List of television production companies links to production company.

I recommend removing the merge suggestion. Victoria Beltrán (talk) 12:19, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

I agree – seems like an honest mistake but the topics are clearly different (companies producing physical TVs vs. companies making shows for TV), and the lists correctly reflect that distinction. RunningTiger123 (talk) 05:46, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree that it's a mistake anyone could have made. That made me consider if the titles are really that distinctive, but I honestly can't think of an alternative. On the other hand, what probably caused the confusion is the text at the top of the article that says:

List of television manufacturers

"This article is about a list of past and present television manufacturers. For a list of present manufacturers sorted by country, see List of television production companies."

And on that article it says:

List of television production companies

"This article is about a list of present television manufacturers sorted by country. For a list of past and present manufacturers, see List of television manufacturers."

Those statements are just untrue so, in my opinion, we have two alternatives:

1) Delete that text altogether in both articles.

2) Replace the wording so it's clear what each article is and what the alternative contains without the need of going into the article in detail.

For that second option, I'm especially interested in hearing Maxeto0910's input. Victoria Beltrán (talk) 11:59, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

I suggest renaming the article "List of television production companies" to "List of television content production companies" or "List of television media production companies" to avoid confusion and adjust the disambiguation hatnote accordingly, so basically option 2). I actually added the disambiguation hatnotes which now turned out to be wrong because I just randomly clicked on some entries of the lists and, based on the articles I was led to, thought that this must be what the two articles are about. Maxeto0910 (talk) 12:38, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

I now removed the wrong disambiguation hatnotes, might add new ones when consensus was found. Thanks for pointing it out. Maxeto0910 (talk) 12:46, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose merge and renames: I think the names are straight forward enough and the content is clearly distinct from each other. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:56, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

  I think no one here is denying that they are distinct articles anymore and that a merge is therefore out of discussion now. However, the names are nonetheless extremely ambigious, which caused my wrong merge proposal in the first place (together with the lack of a proper disambiguation hatnote). Maxeto0910 (talk) 13:10, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

  "Production company" is a clearly defined term; adding "content" or "media" is redundant. If there is a chance of confusion, a hatnote template such as {{distinguish}} would be appropriate. RunningTiger123 (talk) 18:25, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

  If we keep the article titles as they are, a proper disambiguation hatnote is absolutely necessary in my opinion. In most contexts, the term "production" in isolation may be used as a synonym for "manufacturing", potentially leading to confusion among readers who don't know that a production company is not the same as a manufacturing company. Maxeto0910 (talk) 19:25, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

  I added a hatnote to List of television production companies – I don't think a hatnote going the other direction is needed, as I don't think someone looking for a production studio will think a manufacturer is the same thing. RunningTiger123 (talk) 02:01, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

  That's very good.

  This thread can be archived now from my side if there's nothing more to discuss. Maxeto0910 (talk) 05:31, 29 November 2024 (UTC)