User talk:Lar

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Note: I like thank yous! I collect them for the English Wikipedia at w:User_talk:Lar/RFA 1 but generically thanking me for voting in their Request for adminship. Or bureaucratship. Or botship. Or checkusership. Or anything else that could possibly be voted on there... is kinda boring. (So please don't.) Say something special if you can.

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Note: Interpersonal communication does not work when messages are left on individual users' talk pages rather than threaded, especially when a third party wishes to read or reply. Being a "bear of very little brain", I get confused easily trying to follow conversations that bounce back and forth, so I've decided to try the convention that many others seem to use, aggregation of messages on either your talk page or my talk page. If the conversation is about an article I will try to aggregate on the article's talk page. If the conversation is on your talk page or an article talk page, I will watch it. If the conversation is on my talk page or an article talk page and I think that you may not be watching it, I will link to it in a note on your talk page, or in the edit summary of an empty edit. But if you start a thread here, please watch it. I may mess up, don't worry, I'll find it eventually.

Hi! I am Larry Pieniazek and I am not notable. For more information, see: Wikipedia:User:Lar

Feel free to leave me messages here, as an admin, 'crat, Oversighter and Checkuser, I do check here a lot. If I do not respond right away, feel free to leave me a message by either emailing me, or by leaving me a message on the english Wikipedia: Wikipedia:User_talk:Lar. Thanks!

My archived talk        [+/−]
Archive 1 — start through about 1 Nov 2006
Archive 2 — about 1 Nov 2006 through about 1 Mar 2007
Archive 3 — about 1 Mar 2007 through about 1 Aug 2007
Archive 4 — about 1 Aug 2007 through about 1 Jan 2008
Archive 5 — about 1 Jan 2008 through about 1 Sep 2008
Archive 6 — about 1 Sep 2008 through about 1 Nov 2008
Archive 7 — about 1 Nov 2008 through about 1 Jan 2009
Archive 8 — about 1 Jan 2009 through about 1 Mar 2009
Archive 9 — about 1 Mar 2009 through about 1 Jun 2009
Archive 10 — about 1 Jun 2009 through about 1 Sep 2009
Archive 11 — about 1 Sep 2009 through about 1 Jan 2010
Archive 12 — about 1 Jan 2010 through about 1 May 2010
Archive 13 — about 1 May 2010 through about 1 September 2010

question

Hello Lar, I've asked Jimbo a question, but he probably has no time to respond it. Do you know the answer, or you know, where I could get it? Thanks.--Mbz1 (talk) 14:03, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

I don't think there is a current policy. There was discussion of creating one but it did not come to closure IIRC. You could check the archives of the VP maybe? ++Lar: t/c 19:01, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, Lar.--Mbz1 (talk) 19:03, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Issues between Lycaon and Mbz1

This slander and provocations have to stop: [1], [2], [3], [4]. The only thing this person does is spreading lies about me and my wife. An indef ban would be most appropriate here. Please also oversight these insults. Thank you. Lycaon (talk) 22:40, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi Lar, as a matter of fact I was about to ask for your help myself. lycaon "forgot" to tell you that all so called "Slander" happened at my nominations opposed by him. You remember how lycaon's wife defending lycaon's action said that she wanted to kick back on me? Other users have noticed that I have been at lycaon's shit list for quite some time. He is involved with me. His reviews on my images are extremely unfair. May I please ask you to take a look here. Wasn't this enough just to say "Nothing in focus."? Why in the world he needed to add "Failed picture. Why even upload??" Is he going to tell me what I should and should not upload? More than once I tried to run away from Commons (read lycaon). If you believe I should be indefinitely banned, as lycaon has suggested, I will of course comply with your own decision, and will not ask to review the ban. If there's no other choice as to ban one of us, of course it should be me, because as unpleasant person lycaon is, he's much more valued contributor than I am. But I believe there's is a place for both of us here. The only thing that should be done is imposing an interaction ban on lycaon and me. I do not vote on his nominations, and the only thing I would like to happen that he will stop voting on mine.I believe Commons will benefit from this ban, and absolutely nothing bad happened to neither QI nor FPC, if lycaon stops reviewing my nominations. There are many other users to do the job. Thanks.--Mbz1 (talk) 23:05, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

One more thing, please, whatever you decide, please make your own decision, do not bring the issue to AN/U or other boards please. It will end up in a fruitless and endless discussion as usual. As a matter of fact the interaction ban was once suggested here. At least 4 administrators supported it. None of administrators was against it. I of course supported it too. Lycaon was against. I see no reason for him being against it other than continue his harassment and trying to drive me out of Commons. If from two users one is begging for an interaction ban, while other opposes it, this should leave no doubt who is the harasser here. I believe you are in a position to do what is the best for Commons. I will comply with your decision no matter what it is going to be. I believe, if lycaon brought the matter here, he's going to comply with your decision as well. Thanks.--Mbz1 (talk) 23:15, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

•  Info lycaon posted the same request to perma ban me on Bastique talk page. lycaon has never notified me.--Mbz1 (talk) 00:29, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

OK. I've reviewed the diffs. Let's dial this back from talk of slander and of indefinite bans... Lycaon, you (or your wife) need to not vote on Mbz1's work. Mbz1, you need to not vote on Lycaon's work. Consider that a requirement on both of you (don't make me go to AN/I, just honor it). Further, both of you stop casting aspersions on the other... the socking case is over and done with. I see no need to ban anyone or to oversight anything but those diffs did rise to the point where I thought they were concerning... Mbz1, let it go and don't bring it up any more in votes ok? ++Lar: t/c 02:19, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Lar, thank you for your review. I brought the link to CU request up out of desperation only. lycaon's opposes of my nominations are not just an oppose. Lycaon has been on Commons for quite some time, and his opinion influence other less experienced users. I am going to honor your decision about not voting on lycaon's nominations. It is not going to be hard to do at all. I have not been voting on lycaon's nominations for a long time anyway. But could you please respond one question: what should I do, if he continues to vote on mine? BTW today I nominated image by Herby (not mine), and he opposed both alternatives anyway.Thanks. --Mbz1 (talk) 02:54, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Ok don't pretend I didn' try. AN/U it will be then. I'm sorry you won't listen to me. Lycaon (talk) 04:18, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

I listened. I don't think you listened to me. You need to stop voting on Mbz1's nominations. That's not a request. ++Lar: t/c 11:44, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

A command? That was exactly what Mbz1 tried to achieve with her personal attacks - shut up the opposition. And with your decree you are backing her antics. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 11:48, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

All are welcome to post here. However your input is unhelpful in general as well as in this particular instance. I suggest you dial down the invective and make your points more calmly. ++Lar: t/c 12:31, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Invective? You will find that here. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 12:44, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

I also think the situation is more complex. Mbz1 is complaining that Lycaon is biased because he opposes most (all?) of her nominations. But Lycaon opposes most nominations (except his, obviously), from what I can see on the Featured picture candidates list. So in fact, him supporting Mbz1's nomination would be quite peculiar, and that would appear to be biased. Proving that he's negatively biased against Mbz1 takes more than noticing he's often (or even always, I don't know) opposing her nominations; you'd have to show that he supports similar images with the same flaws from other contributors, or that his reasons for opposing her images are completely frivolous. Otherwise, it can just as well be that he has very high standards (for everyone) and genuinely considers Mbz1's contributions to be bellow that standard. By asking him not to comment on her images, it would effectively mean imposing stricter standards on everyone else, and letting her off the hook. As for Mbz1 not commenting on Lycaon's contributions, as far as I know, it's a restriction she imposed on herself; no one asked her to do that. –Tryphon^☂ 12:13, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

I've told Mbz1 to knock off the comments. FP is a vote not a consensus. If we have someone that always opposes all nominations (or most all) except his own then I suggest maybe the vote is getting skewed. In a consensus process you can discount the uniformly negative and uniformly positive input if you know it's there. But in a vote? Not possible. I think there is bad blood between Lycaon and a lot of people, not just Mbz1. Perhaps it would be best if he didn't vote at all. (merely comment with technical information) ++Lar: t/c 12:31, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

I responded on kuiper's talk page here why lycaon votes on my nomination are not just unfair, but also trolling. As long as he continues opposing my nominations I would have no other choice but to bring CU request link. I am doing this not to harass lycaon, but only to explain why his voting on my nominations cannot be considered a good faith reviews. I hope you the difference between unfair reviews and a bad faith review,Tryphon. I see no other means to fight his trolling on my nominations. If what I am doing with that is wrong then I guess I have to be banned as lycaon has requested.-Mbz1 (talk) 12:20, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

I suggest you stop commenting on this now. I request that you not respond to PK. And stop raising the CU request link. That's not a request. If you MUST comment about Lycaon's votes, merely say you think they are biased and let others draw their own conclusions. As long as E is not voting the CU link is unwarranted. So quit. ++Lar: t/c 12:31, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Then can I remove lycaons's votes from my nominations altogether? Will he get blocked, if he continues his so called reviewing of my images? Could I start doing this as right now, remove his oppose together with CU link from my current QI nomination? Thanks.--Mbz1 (talk) 12:42, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

You may remove your own comments or part of them. I encourage you to do so. I suggest using strike. You may not remove the comments of others. That includes Lycaon's votes. You already know this. ++Lar: t/c 13:35, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes, you are right. I know this. What I still do not know is how to proceed, if a bad faith review on my nominations are to continue. I removed the link. Let's see what happens. Thanks.--Mbz1 (talk) 14:24, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Lycaon, there's a much simpler solution: please stop voting on my nominations. There are around 150 QI nominations on any given time, with only 2 or 3 of them mine, and those of mine are there only sometimes, not all the time. Why can't you avoid voting on them? You are involved with me, you do not talk to me, you do not respond my questions about your reviews. I see absolutely no other reason for your unwillingness to stop writing your extremely unfair, and sometimes trolling reviews on my nominations except harassing me. Please be a man at last, do not hide under your wife's skirt, as you have done during CU request, get over it, and just let me be, please, lycaon!--Mbz1 (talk) 05:21, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Lar, sorry for using your talk page to address lycaon. I was told he does not want me to post to his own talk page ever again--Mbz1 (talk) 05:21, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

fyi

I thought it'd be polite of me to let you know that I mentioned you here - it's about conversations from April which relate to child porn. and WMF (sorry it's a grotty subject). Cheers, Privatemusings (talk) 05:07, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. Feel free to let me know on en:wp where my talk page has many more watchers. :) ++Lar: t/c 10:33, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

 Done :-) Privatemusings (talk) 01:38, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Vote

I really would like you vote, either way. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Example_of_photo_collage_against_censorship.jpg#Recent_uploads_by_.7B.7Bu.7CTomascastelazo.7D.7D, --Tomascastelazo (talk) 06:24, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

re: regarding Midnight 68

Hi, Lar. I responded (finally) on my talk page. Powers (talk) 17:56, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

And again. =) Powers (talk) 01:57, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

OTRS

Hi, could you add me to the 'OTRS-member'-group at Commons? I recently entered the OTRS team. Thanks in advance. Jcb (talk) 16:51, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

I'm probably not the right person to do that, I'm afraid. ++Lar: t/c 02:26, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Template:Sockpuppet

Hi Larry,

I noticed that {{Sockpuppet}} isn't an autotranslated template, and I thought I'd do something about it. Then I noticed that it actually used to be autotranslated before you made this edit way back in 2007. Do you remember what that was about, or do you have any thoughts on the best way to get it back to being autotranslated again? Do the other language versions need to be rewritten to cope with new parameters? —LX (talk, contribs) 19:08, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

I'm afraid I have no idea what I was up to back then... translation approaches have changed a lot here since then. But I trust you to give it a go and do the right thing, I certainly don't want to exert any ownership over it. Also, I think the diff link you gave me isn't quite right... there further seems something screwy with the history as certain revisions are hard to walk through. ++Lar: t/c 02:30, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Okay then. Thanks for commenting. I fixed up the link too, so it should work now. —LX (talk, contribs) 05:23, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing things! ++Lar: t/c 13:43, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Well, I finally figured out what happened. You didn't actually have anything to do with the change. What happened was that an edit you made on Meta was moved over here to Commons, and it was the move that overwrote the multilingual version, which I didn't realize, since it also modified the history. Sorry for the confusion! —LX (talk, contribs) 11:33, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

That's wild! Import can do strange things. Thanks for letting me know! ++Lar: t/c 16:55, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Olafbot

I still remember what this flag was needed for, so I'm likely to use it in a few days, when I finish to dredge up the bot's code. ;-) But, without a sarcasm, thanks a lot! (even if you are bored with thanks) Olaf (talk) 00:54, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Sorry it took so long! (I'm not actually bored with thanks) ++Lar: t/c 01:23, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

File:Hardy_Dam_Muskegon_River_Dscn1115_cropped.jpg

File:Hardy_Dam_Muskegon_River_Dscn1115_cropped.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Pieter Kuiper (talk) 20:00, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

User rights

Hi Lar, could you change my user rights, please? I'm OTRS-Member, but it's not marked. Greetings -- Ra'ike T C 12:31, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Hi. I haven't been following things closely but I thought that we used that to mark folk who work the Permissions-commons queue rather than all OTRS members... I checked M:OTRS/personnel and you don't seem to be listed in that queue. Let me ask around... (as a counter, it's marked for me but I don't have that queue listed either) Sorry that I'm confused. ++Lar: t/c 13:58, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Hi Lar, it's updated now ;-) Greetings -- Ra'ike T C 11:54, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Done. Thanks. Although I'm still confused about the larger question. ++Lar: t/c 14:26, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

I don't know what rules you might have discussed among the bureaucrats, but IMHO you should give the OTRS flag to OTRS members who (regularly) put OTRS templates on Commons images. After all, that's all it's needed for. Regards, -- ChrisiPK (Talk|Contribs) 02:23, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Sounds reasonable to me. I guess my confusion is that I'm not sure where that is documented. ++Lar: t/c 06:13, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Hello Lar, many thanks for giving the otrs-flag :-) Best regards -- Ra'ike T C 13:32, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Happy to help. Sorry for any confusion or delay. Best! ++Lar: t/c 16:53, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

File moves request

I want to rename the first 8 photos in Category:Burton Holmes Lectures – Seoul, Korea so their names are not all capital letters. They are all capitals because I copied and pasted from an OCR. At the time I felt it didn't matter that they were all capital letters, but now I think they would look better if only the first letter of each word was capitalized. The first half of their names are the title of the 1901 book and the last half an abbreviation of a chapter name as well as the name of a city and country. I placed a move request on each of those files. ---- Chucky 23:28Z3Jan2011 23:28, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

It appears this has been completed, done by DerBorg (talk · contribs). Advise of any issues. ++Lar: t/c 21:34, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Account unification

Hi Lar, I'm here to ask you to rename (or unify) my old username Jpkmaster (talk · contribs) to Kmaster (talk · contribs). It is my name in every Wikimedia project. I'm trying to unify all my accounts, for some reason someone registered Kmaster years ago but never did anything with that account. And I think it was me, but I forgot the password and when I try to sent it via email, it said that "username Kmaster has not registered any email". Thanks--Jpkmaster (talk) 08:31, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi, have you asked at the changing username page? ++Lar: t/c 14:35, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Will do. Thanks. --Jpkmaster (talk) 00:45, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Bot flag

Hello,
When I look at my watchList, it seems that my bot User:Liné1bot misses a flag to be marked as bot modification.
Could you help me with that?
Thanks in advance Liné1 (talk) 06:58, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

It seems that Liné1bot got his flag, but his edits do not appear as bot edits in the watchlists... No idea why. --Eusebius (talk) 08:12, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

That may be beyond me... I'll ask around, but I thought granting the flag meant suppression. We sometimes approve bots that we then don't flag because we WANT the edits to appear in the list. ++Lar: t/c 16:05, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

This issue was raised at other places, and it appeared that something had to be done in the code of the bot for the edits to be flagged as bot-edits. Liné1 told he would look into that. --Eusebius (talk) 16:08, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

MerlinCharon and Snek01

(for those wondering what this thread is about, see this archived version of MerlinCharon's talk page, and this archived version of Snek01's talk page.

What is this? a group hug?!

Hello Lar, you are the second person who contacts me about Snek01. I just received a private e-mail from another member, who did not want this to go public. Why? because Snek01 is a valued member who has left before, and according to this member I should let him do "his thing". Else he might leave again. You tell me now that I am too harsh...and I know the reason why you tell me this: it is because the 'group' needs Snek01 because of his 'valuable' work. I will tell you the exact words I told the member with the private message: I have no objection that someone is doing "his thing", but I do object when this someone transforms "my thing" into "his thing". His "excellent" works are no excuse to boldly intrude someone else's territory. If this is approved, then there is a good chance that wikipedia is going to miss my "excellent" works. It is that simple, a question of making distinction between mine and dine, and behaving as such. If Snek01 leaves again because he knows everybody cannot miss him, then he can use this game as a weapon for its own benefit at the expense of others. Sorry, but I am not going to contribute to insanity.MerlinCharon (talk) 16:16, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

All too clear

I just received a next message from the same member - it seems I get everybody on my back, simply because I do not accept someone else boldly adjusting my descriptions without me even knowing about it. It has become all too clear for me, and I will show you my second reply: Here is a form of group consensus in which political or non-political interests are safeguarded. The controversy is not about the invasive behaviour of Snek01, no, the controversy is created around the person who opens his mouth about this. Only because there is a hidden group interest concerning the contributions of Snek01. This is a rigged game. The policy of "mellowness" is abused for own benefit, and does not apply to the group as a whole, where members agressively try to put down the one who opened his mouth; and thereby starting a witch hunt towards the one who 'threatens' the status quo of current group interests, the 'consensus' so to speak. No, as soon as I open my mouth I get all kinds of behavioral protocols thrown at me, what I should do and moreover, what I shouldn't do. The controversy around my person is created and the one who is intrusive goes free...this is more than a little hypocritical and abusive, don't you think?! MerlinCharon (talk) 17:12, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

You seem to be confused about the difference between polite disagreement and disagreeability. You can, and should, make your points about matters, but you must do so politely. The above screeds do not fit. Read what I directed you to read, please. ++Lar: t/c 18:57, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

You seem confused about the difference between workability and elitist interests that prevent this. If you put more value to your old teammates than to actual work that should be done, fine. Than no work will be done at all (by me) and you can be assured that the absence of solutions simply keeps the current old boys network as it is. THAT is your motivation, not the project. An please don't patronise me, it is already much too late for that. You squander, you lose. It saves time and effort for me, so I win. Bye bye.MerlinCharon (talk) 12:27, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

I have no previous connection to Snek01, it was merely brought to my attention that your behavior towards that editor was less than satisfactory. If you cannot avoid being disagreeable in your interactions with others, then you are correct, you may not be suited to edit here. ++Lar: t/c 12:45, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

My behaviour...yes, and here we go again, that is what I mean with creating the controversy around my person. This way you can shift the focus to me, and also shift the moral blame to me. And to what end? In order to protect the current old boys network, at the cost of workability. The e-mails I received were from a 'prominent' member of your club...and Snek01 is obviously also an important member. So stay with your 'important' members, and keep your arrogance up. This will work for you, no doubt. Fine by me, over and out.

O yes, and one last thing before you can delete my account, because I am simly not needed: Your own top down attitude concerning setting the rules about how others should communicate, is in itself not more than an administrative tool to put others away. You are not fit for the job, mister. MerlinCharon (talk) 14:15, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

You take nice pictures, and it will be a shame to lose further contributions from you, but lashing out at others isn't the best was to get along in a collaborative environment. Has nothing to do with anyone else, only you. If you are leaving, go in good health. ++Lar: t/c 14:32, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

Exactly! it has only to do with me! That's it! That's the whole edifice of your story. No contents whatsoever, only demonising the one who objects, and making your way of relating the norm at the expense of workability. Who is the one lashing out anyway?! And yes, you've lost...sad but true. Cannot help it, perhaps you shouldn't lash out at the one who is helping the project. But you folks don't want help, you folks want to maintain your club. And now you have the consequences of that. Delete my account. MerlinCharon (talk) 15:14, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

Accounts do not get deleted, only pages. You can go dormant and never return if you wish. ++Lar: t/c 15:53, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

File:Greece_linguistic_minorities.svg

File:Greece_linguistic_minorities.svg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Meliniki 15:59, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

File:Greece_linguistic_minorities.svg

File:Greece_linguistic_minorities.svg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Meliniki 00:59, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Hope to see you soon...

Dentzel carousel in Kennywood, taken by you

Another Dentzel carousel in Rochester, NY, taken by me

Hi Lar, when I returned from a short phase of low activity I noticed that you've returned your bits. This gives me the opportunity to thank you for everything you've done for Commons. Even if you never hit the top scores of admin actions at Commons, it is hard too imagine a Commons without you as your skills of conflict resolution and addressing hard problems are unparalleled. You had your heart here in Commons and this showed. Browsing through your pictures, I noticed that we share an appreciation for old carousels. The one you've photographed here was made by Dentzel, a family which came from Germany in the 1850s with a complete carousel packed away on the steamship. It is great to see that quite some of them have been preserved such that they can be still enjoyed. I hope to see you return, perhaps with some great new pictures. Best wishes, AFBorchert (talk) 16:05, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

{{User Flommons}} template could be interesting for you

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--. HombreDHojalata.^talk 19:15, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

File:Croton Dam Muskegon River Dscn1100 cropped.jpg

File:Croton Dam Muskegon River Dscn1100 cropped.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Stefan4 (talk) 14:07, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

File:Croton Dam Muskegon River Dscn1046 cropped.jpg

File:Croton Dam Muskegon River Dscn1046 cropped.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Stefan4 (talk) 15:42, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Help and request

Hi, I upload 8 photo files form [ir.voanews.com Persian VOA] in commons. Some of them take by Persian site and some of them take from video file by VOA(see resolution) , but non of them have not any specific note for limitation use and they publish in that site for public usage, but right now one of the commons administer candidate them for deletion (you can see them in my talk page there) these picture relate to very famous Iranian person for example en:Behdad Salimi up to now this article has not any picture in wiki!!! please help us in fa.wiki most of Persian article has not any picture, they are very hard rule in Wikipedia for upload files and picture, i upload them from VOA you can see source that show no limitation, i want to you to do something against this severity please. sincerely. --H.b.sh (talk) 11:18, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

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User:Patrick Permien

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Wiki-observer (talk) 21:32, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Notification

Hello, there is a de-flag proposal at Commons:Bots/Requests/de-flag which affects your bot. Regards --Steinsplitter (talk) 22:31, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! ++Lar: t/c 23:55, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Commons:STOP!!!! DO NOT DELETE THIS IMAGE TILL YOU REPLACE IT IN THE WIKIMEDIA LOGO MOSAIC

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GXXF T • C 17:56, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

I commented on the page of the admin who deleted, then undeleted it, User_talk:Daphne_Lantier. Discussion may be best done there? Not sure. But let's stay threaded. ++Lar: t/c 10:42, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Fascinating. That admin's blocked now. They basically deleted the file because it was tagged, without doing any research as to what it was. Shows a flaw with the speedy deletion process, I think. ++Lar: t/c 21:21, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Hi Lar, that admin was a sock of INeverCry who is WMF banned and creator of hundreds of socks. As admin, INeverCry worked at record speed. Anyway, it is nice to see you are still around here and taking care of this nice mosaic. Regards, AFBorchert (talk) 21:42, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Hi! I'm not that active, but am thinking about maybe trying to be a little more involved. My activity at en:wp is also quite low compared to historical levels... still, I miss the place. nasaspaceflight.com seems to take a lot of my time these days. ++Lar: t/c 00:08, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

That little essay I started way back when? Got referenced in the discussion about the global ban. How about that? ++Lar: t/c 00:21, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

You made history back then :) BTW, your essay was also favored by Russavia, a former admin and 'crat who also got WMF banned. He added that userbox during the controversy around Polandball which got him blocked at en:wp. --AFBorchert (talk) 08:16, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

Spam

Hello, Lar! Spam is usually reverted on sight, although at the Help Desk in particular I try and AGF as much as possible that a spammy-looking post might be an attempt at a genuine request, especially in a language I don’t understand. (In this particular instance I don’t think anyone’s GF would stretch that far.) Off-topic requests there are usually answered briefly rather than deleted, sometimes with direction to a more appropriate venue. Patrollers’ practices vary somewhat; personally, if it’s the first offence of a registered account I template the user-talk page with {{No advertising}} (always subst’ed). In this case the user page consisted of the same content, so I tagged it {{SD|G10}} (criterion U3 might also apply).—Odysseus1479 (talk) 21:23, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

Cool, thanks for the heads up. I've forgotten everything, basically. :) ++Lar: t/c 15:42, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Everything...? good to see you around though. Best --Herby ^{talk thyme} 15:52, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Just about! I was just at the help desk asking questions, FFS... I am just here helping clean up a little something that arose at nasaspaceflight.com ++Lar: t/c 16:37, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Round 2 of Picture of the Year 2018 is open!

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Proposal

Commons:Village pump/Proposals#Upgrade Commons:Staying mellow from Essay to Guideline. FYI Jeff has proposed this become a guideline. -- Colin (talk) 09:55, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. I weighed in. I love it, obvs, since I wrote it, but it's not in a form suitable for being a guideline as of how it reads now. ++Lar: t/c 22:24, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

I don't think you should mind that it is "just an essay". It is obviously appreciated, though I suspect, misunderstood and forgotten when most required. If a civility guideline or policy is proposed for development, then I think your input would be helpful. I helped improve WP:MEDMOS and created WP:MEDRS guidelines on Wikipedia. They took a very long time to mature and get approved. And while I love that people cite those frequently, it is also sad when people do so who haven't really read what they say and are pushing their own agenda. I wonder what percentage of people who cite MELLOW are or have recently been very unmellow.

I also wonder if Commons needs some advice on dealing with the "angry customer" scenario. This is where someone is acutely very upset about something and expressing that in how they ask for something to be done or changed. The "customer service" advice for dealing with that is to respond in a professional manner and to try to get to resolving the problem. Instead, Commons often reacts with hostility and sets about trying to force instant mellowness on this upset person. Your essay has advice from the POV of the person coming from another wiki who needs to take care not to be misunderstood. Maybe we need advice on how the Commons community should deal with people who come from outside (possibly newbies to any wiki), and communicate in a difficult manner, but we respond in a professional respectful way. -- Colin (talk) 08:14, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

I think an essay on angry customers is a great idea. Also, I'm not that active here of late but I would do my best to comment if we try to put together a civility guideline. On en:wp I recall that civility was sometimes used as a club to get at people one didn't agree with. ++Lar: t/c 15:15, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

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