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mister car from 971 ◊ 2011-08-10 07:03 |
Since when Russian police has Crown Victorias in their fleet? |
◊ 2011-08-10 10:55 |
IIRC, the Moscow police got some Crown Vics in the 1990s. https://policecarwebsite.net/pdcar4/moscow.htm |
◊ 2011-08-27 03:10 |
This is a 1994-1997 [P71] of the Moscow Police. |
◊ 2011-09-04 07:53 |
It's a 1995-1997 model. Where do you get your year ranges from |
◊ 2011-09-08 02:53 |
Because that's what Russia had. If this was another country, then it would be 1995-1997. The Moscow Police force ordered Crown Vics first in 1994 and ordered their last in 1997: https://policecarwebsite.net/pdcar4/moscow.htm . NONE were ordered in 1995 or 1996. So 1994-1997 would be correct. Besides, you can't see the grill, so 1995-1997 makes no sense. Where did you get that from? |
◊ 2011-09-08 08:29 |
If I remember correctly, those Crown Vics that the Moscow Police had were donated, not ordered. I don't think the police would have had the money to buy and import American police cars during those early years of the post-Soviet Russian Federation. And is that site your source? Because there are Crown Vics labeled as 1994 and 1997 you automatically take those as being the only model years they had? That site can't be trusted with years. That car that is labeled a 1997 is actually a 1995 model as the 1996-1997's didn't have the CROWN VICTORIA name badge next to the front doors. And when you write something like "1994-1997" that implies that a car can be anywhere between that possible year range. If you want to say that it's either or, say something like "it's either a 1994 or a 1997." As for this being a 1995-1997 model, it makes perfect sense as earlier models had chrome on the side door moulding. |
◊ 2011-09-08 09:56 |
I thought we had discussed this elsewhere ... /vehicle_76064-Ford-Crown-Victoria-P71-1993.html |
◊ 2011-09-08 16:06 |
This topic tends to be brought up from time to time, especially by newer members. |
◊ 2011-09-09 00:21 |
1.The link was a example, not hardcore proof. 2.You said put model years instead of one or two years here: /vehicle.php?id=412151 . 3. I meant to say donated, but I was doing 5 things at the same time and didn't spot that mistake until you brought it up. 3. But didn't you say the opposite about 1996-1997s here: /vehicle_182250-Ford-Crown-Victoria-P71-1996.html ? |
◊ 2011-09-09 00:35 |
They looked brand new back in the 90's in our streets. I'm not sure about all Militia, but some department's (like 8th)always had a new imported cars. |
◊ 2011-09-09 01:00 |
It would be interesting to know what years the Moscow Police received the CV's. Unfortunately I have not found any good sources for that info. In your original post you said 1994-1997 but that "NONE were ordered in 1995 or 1996." Therefore giving the year range would be incorrect in that case as it is either a 1994 or a 1997, not a 1994 -(through) 1997. Is your last point related to the name badge next to the front doors? Because I only depend on that info when the name badge is on the car. The reason why is that many times the name badges were removed for decal placement or simply fell off so just because that badge isn't there I don't assume it's a 1996-1997 model. The car in the picture looks like it's seen better days and doesn't even have the original wheel covers anymore so who knows if there was ever a name badge on the sides or not. |
◊ 2017-07-04 13:54 |
The Belarusian police also bought a considerable amount of Crown Victoria and Taurus in the 90s. Subsequently, they were replaced by the new 2nd gen CrownVics (Link to "adt.by" , https://za-rulem.by/images/photos/medium/article1639.jpg). In Russia, such an update did not happen, in part, as claimed, because of new laws that heavily raised customs duties on imported cars. Some Russian PDs still bought a certain amount of the 2nd gen CVs, but such purchases were not massive, and from that such cars in Russia are very rare. |
◊ 2017-07-06 03:18 |
Nice ones For the most part, it seems that: Russia passed a lot of those laws to force russians to buy domestically built vehicles (didn't Lada and the other manufacturers have issues in the late 1990s and early 2000s?) also, i've maybe seen at least 1 picture of a 1998 [P71] CV that seemed to be a real Russian police car, although i've not seen many. |
◊ 2017-07-06 20:08 |
There's not that much information about this. This is photos from Sochi: Also I saw photos of unmarked police '98 CV with Moscow plates; but now unfortunately I simply can not find these photos. There were also testimonies on '98 P71 in other cities, but there are no photos. |