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The Power and the Glory

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  • Date First Available ‏ : ‎ April 26, 2012
  • ASIN ‏ : ‎ B006PTP9EM
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  • Reviewed in the United States on August 15, 2014
    Wow. I remember a time, not so very long ago, when the compact disc was relatively new, and my friend and I eagerly scoured the various trade magazines, and record store bins, hoping to find our favorite 70's prog albums on cd. No pops, no crackles, no surface noise, no tracking distortion.

    Of course, some sounded amazing. The ones lucky or studious enough to track down the proper, first-generation, non-vinyl masters, sounded wonderful. An enormous improvement on the old records. Far too many however, were simply old, 2nd or 3rd (or even 4th), generation production masters, with compression and equalization intended for vinyl. Regardless of what the angry, old, hippies tell you, vinyl is an extremely limited and comparatively primitive medium, and it requires an enormous amount of eq'ing in order to even vaguely resemble the original master tape. Treble especially is boosted, which explains why so many of the early cd releases of back catalogue titles sounded harsh and unnatural. Many have mistakenly made this an "analogue vs. digital" debate, which is really inaccurate. Any recording engineer will tell you that analogue is fine. You'll never hear a better source of reproduction than a pro-level analogue tape machine. However, a piece of vinyl being read by a needle is not the same thing as a studer 1" mastering deck.

    I know, all this sounds off-point, but the reason for the quick primer in mastering is to give some understanding of why these Steven Wilson remixes are such a great thing. "Remasters", as anyone, regardless of technical acumen knows, are a spotty business. Many sound much better than previous releases, far too many sound little or no better, and a disturbing amount sound even worse.

    In order to really understand why, you have to know a little about how albums were made in those days. An album was generally recorded on a 24 track tape machine. A large, 2-inch wide tape held 24 separate tracks of sound. Guitar on one, bass on another, singer on another, etc. When all the instruments were recorded and all the effects and balancing of sounds were complete, they had to be "mixed ". Since your stereo at home doesn't have 24 speakers to play all those tracks, they need to mix the 24 instrument tracks down to just the 2 your stereo can play. Left and right. That first "stereo" tape was the 1st generation master. It's the best sounding stereo source you can ever have, because it came straight from the original multi-track recordings. In order to keep this tape safe, it was generally the practice to make more copies from that copy. A vinyl master was a copy made from the original and then eq' and processed for pressing the records from. Typically, another copy was used to make cassettes from, etc. Often masters were lost or misplaced, and copies were made of the copies. With analogue, every time you make a copy of a copy, you add noise and lose quality. Which is why so many releases of classic albums sounded awful. They were only as good as the tape they were taken from, and as you can imagine, not a lot of effort was taken in the early days to track down the best tapes, with profit minded companies assuming no one would know the difference.

    Well, finally getting to the point, these 5.1 releases are, or at least should be unless handled by complete idiots, the best sound physically possible, because unlike a "remaster", a legitimate 5.1 release requires going back to the original, multitrack tape. There is no better source than the big 2" tape the instruments were recorded directly to.

    Well luckily for us, Mr. Wilson is certainly no idiot. He's a remarkable musician and engineer by any standard, and so far, I've enjoyed all of his releases. But this, to my ears is probably the finest -at least the basic sonics are. The sound quality is simply stunning. The fidelity is basically what you would be hearing if you were at the studio with Gentle Giant back in 75' listening to the playbacks. A prog fan and audiophile can hardly ask for more than that.

    The blu-ray comes with both the 5.1 surround mix, as well as the 2-channel stereo mix for those who either don't have a surround setup, or simply don't care for such a radically different version of what they are used to hearing. There are really two schools of thought on surround mixes of music recordings. The first, and most often held by audiophiles, is that the rear channels should simply provide ambient information. Just the reflections and echoes that you would hear off the side and rear walls during a performance. This ideal assumes that the pinnacle of sound reproduction is to accurately reproduce a band's live performance. Any other use is considered gimmicky and unnatural.

    The second view is basically.." Look sparky, I paid a lot for all these channels and speakers, and by gum I want to hear some stuff flying around the room." Which is fair enough I suppose. I tend to be a fan of the former generally, but I don't stick to it like dogma. It depends on the style and intentions of the artist. ELP and Pink Floyd tended to be very flamboyant with their sound, and even used their quad PA systems to quite intentionally "make stuff fly around the room." Other artists with more austere and naturalistic sound and style, probably would be better served with a less "showy" mix ( it's hard to imagine a Neil Young album sounding right with his guitar whizzing around the rear speakers).

    Steven Wilson, as a long time prog musician and fan, seems to instinctively understand this, and strikes a nice balance between the two. I will admit, with GG being one of prog's less show-bizzy bands, I rather expected a fairly subtle mix, but he surprisingly opted for a little bit of multi-channel fireworks. The rear channels are pretty active with directed guitar and keyboard parts, and there is quite a bit of separation in the various channels. Not a complaint, but a mild surprise. And if you tend to dislike all the whizz bang, you still have the new plain, stereo mix, which is pretty faithful to the original, but with superior sonics. It's a win/win for sure.

    As others have mentioned, you also get new animated graphics that appear as the album plays. I personally, find it distracting, and prefer to just close my eyes and listen, but it's there for those who might enjoy it.

    Overall, for only slightly more than the price of a cd at the mall, you get one of the greatest albums ever made, sounding better than you ever imagined it would. It doesn't get better than that. Until he decides to do Glass House that is.
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  • Reviewed in the United States on July 24, 2014
    I have just sat down and listened to the Steven Wilson remix in DTS 5.1. I have been reduced to tears.

    First impression: Gentle Giant has never sounded so wonderful. The audio is superlative. Nuance and subtlety, great power and complexity are bought out clear and free. It was literally an eargasm.

    The surround is not remotely gimmicky. I was never surprised by anything unexpected coming from the surround rears. What I did feel is that the band was right there in the room with me, and it was palpable.

    I have a decent system, not top of the line Krell, but a serviceable 100 watt-per-channel Panasonic 7.1 receiver set up for 5.1. The blu ray player is a mid-level Samsung 3D unit, connected to the receiver with a digital coaxial cable (I'm only 5.1 anyway, and the Pioneer won't pass 3D through its HDMI, so HDMI from the player goes direct to the TV. The speakers are a small matched JBL set, very flat and clean from about 90 Hz to 18 Khz. The pride of my system is an astonishing 39" SVS cylinder subwoofer with a built in 500 watt amplifier that goes down flat (full power) to 22 Hz. It's nicely calibrated into the soundfield and never dominates the tonal color of the music or film. As a bass player, it's a joy.

    That said, I have rarely heard my system sound so wonderful as it just did. It was a treat, and I will be rediscovering this album quite a bit in the next few months. As other have reported, there are phrases and nuances of which I was unaware. John's drums are likely the greatest improvement. The kick on the bass drum was gorgeous. Kerry's keyboards seemed cleaner. Ray's bass, powerful as it was on the previous mix, was nothing short of a revelation. I heard octave jumps I'd missed. Gary's guitar was perfect, ringing out so clearly and thrilling me with his truly passionate performances. Vocals were also revelatory: dang, Derek did a great job on this album. The whole thing felt like a cohesive, consistent, musically stunning live performance.

    The animations that accompany the music are excellent. While thematically similar, they amplify the words and music nicely. There are several instances where each instrument has its own matching animation, and it's great! "Cogs In Cogs" was just that, a giant labyrinthine set of gears and wheels. It's a treat for the eyes whilst the ears are being pleasured.

    So in closing, I just had a most profound aural gratification. This one's going to be seeing a lot of time in the player.

    Please Steve, do Free Hand! Octopus! In A Glass House! Gentle Giant deserve this level of respect. Thank you!
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  • Carlos Balzuel, Santander
    5.0 out of 5 stars Prensaje de calidad, pero...
    Reviewed in Spain on November 20, 2024
    A veces uno percibe, en algunas reediciones modernas en vinilo, cierta falta de impacto en las dinámicas; lo cual es especialmente apreciable en la reproducción de los medios-graves. Por otra parte, las remezclas de Steven Wilson son impecables, y parten de fuentes genuinas y fiables: como mínimo, todas ellas han sido elaboradas con un gusto y sabiduría audiófila fuera de toda duda. Es curioso observar que, del mismo músico-productor-ingeniero, uno se puede encontrar vinilos que se ajustan a lo descrito más arriba (el caso del producto aquí comentado)... ¡o todo lo contrario! ("Aqualung" o "Thick as a Brick" de Jethro Tull: al menos mis copias, claro está). Pero no se alarmen, ya que lo que más temo en un disco de prensaje moderno es la ausencia de controles de calidad: ruidos espantosos, rasponazos horribles, compresión, drop-outs o basura sónica, en general, diseñada para engañar a bobos e incautos que no han escuchado un vinilo en condiciones en su vida. En este caso, la copia que me ha llegado es impecable. Y considero el "defecto" descrito como menor, ya que uno puede disfrutar de esta excelente música, remozada con esmero, sutileza y un buen equilibrio en espacialidad, tímbrica y dinámicas. Eso sí: igual conviene subir el volumen un poquito más de lo habitual.
  • Talkinheads60
    5.0 out of 5 stars Eccellente
    Reviewed in Italy on November 20, 2024
    Remix di un classico, super
  • Kevin O'Connor
    5.0 out of 5 stars Great audio
    Reviewed in Germany on October 29, 2024
    Great re issue
  • christopher brabin
    5.0 out of 5 stars Gentle Giant The Power and the Glory
    Reviewed in the United Kingdom on October 4, 2024
    04/10/2024 What I like is the production excellence what I dislike is that it is still difficult for storage
  • Ulf Bremin
    5.0 out of 5 stars Excellent avantgarde progrock music, flawed packaging.
    Reviewed in Sweden on February 25, 2024
    Excellent music and remix. Absolutely lousy packaging by Amazon. Record jacket has bent corners, rubbing and seamsplits due to inappropriate packaging.