WO2013191619A1 - Diagnostics for a starter motor - Google Patents
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- WO2013191619A1 WO2013191619A1 PCT/SE2013/050679 SE2013050679W WO2013191619A1 WO 2013191619 A1 WO2013191619 A1 WO 2013191619A1 SE 2013050679 W SE2013050679 W SE 2013050679W WO 2013191619 A1 WO2013191619 A1 WO 2013191619A1
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- F—MECHANICAL ENGINEERING; LIGHTING; HEATING; WEAPONS; BLASTING
- F02—COMBUSTION ENGINES; HOT-GAS OR COMBUSTION-PRODUCT ENGINE PLANTS
- F02N—STARTING OF COMBUSTION ENGINES; STARTING AIDS FOR SUCH ENGINES, NOT OTHERWISE PROVIDED FOR
- F02N11/00—Starting of engines by means of electric motors
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- F02N11/108—Safety devices for diagnosis of the starter or its components
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- F—MECHANICAL ENGINEERING; LIGHTING; HEATING; WEAPONS; BLASTING
- F02—COMBUSTION ENGINES; HOT-GAS OR COMBUSTION-PRODUCT ENGINE PLANTS
- F02N—STARTING OF COMBUSTION ENGINES; STARTING AIDS FOR SUCH ENGINES, NOT OTHERWISE PROVIDED FOR
- F02N11/00—Starting of engines by means of electric motors
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- G01—MEASURING; TESTING
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- G01R31/34—Testing dynamo-electric machines
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- G01R31/34—Testing dynamo-electric machines
- G01R31/343—Testing dynamo-electric machines in operation
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- F—MECHANICAL ENGINEERING; LIGHTING; HEATING; WEAPONS; BLASTING
- F02—COMBUSTION ENGINES; HOT-GAS OR COMBUSTION-PRODUCT ENGINE PLANTS
- F02N—STARTING OF COMBUSTION ENGINES; STARTING AIDS FOR SUCH ENGINES, NOT OTHERWISE PROVIDED FOR
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- F—MECHANICAL ENGINEERING; LIGHTING; HEATING; WEAPONS; BLASTING
- F02—COMBUSTION ENGINES; HOT-GAS OR COMBUSTION-PRODUCT ENGINE PLANTS
- F02N—STARTING OF COMBUSTION ENGINES; STARTING AIDS FOR SUCH ENGINES, NOT OTHERWISE PROVIDED FOR
- F02N2200/00—Parameters used for control of starting apparatus
- F02N2200/02—Parameters used for control of starting apparatus said parameters being related to the engine
- F02N2200/022—Engine speed
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- F—MECHANICAL ENGINEERING; LIGHTING; HEATING; WEAPONS; BLASTING
- F02—COMBUSTION ENGINES; HOT-GAS OR COMBUSTION-PRODUCT ENGINE PLANTS
- F02N—STARTING OF COMBUSTION ENGINES; STARTING AIDS FOR SUCH ENGINES, NOT OTHERWISE PROVIDED FOR
- F02N2200/00—Parameters used for control of starting apparatus
- F02N2200/02—Parameters used for control of starting apparatus said parameters being related to the engine
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- F—MECHANICAL ENGINEERING; LIGHTING; HEATING; WEAPONS; BLASTING
- F02—COMBUSTION ENGINES; HOT-GAS OR COMBUSTION-PRODUCT ENGINE PLANTS
- F02N—STARTING OF COMBUSTION ENGINES; STARTING AIDS FOR SUCH ENGINES, NOT OTHERWISE PROVIDED FOR
- F02N2200/00—Parameters used for control of starting apparatus
- F02N2200/04—Parameters used for control of starting apparatus said parameters being related to the starter motor
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- F—MECHANICAL ENGINEERING; LIGHTING; HEATING; WEAPONS; BLASTING
- F02—COMBUSTION ENGINES; HOT-GAS OR COMBUSTION-PRODUCT ENGINE PLANTS
- F02N—STARTING OF COMBUSTION ENGINES; STARTING AIDS FOR SUCH ENGINES, NOT OTHERWISE PROVIDED FOR
- F02N2200/00—Parameters used for control of starting apparatus
- F02N2200/04—Parameters used for control of starting apparatus said parameters being related to the starter motor
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- F—MECHANICAL ENGINEERING; LIGHTING; HEATING; WEAPONS; BLASTING
- F02—COMBUSTION ENGINES; HOT-GAS OR COMBUSTION-PRODUCT ENGINE PLANTS
- F02N—STARTING OF COMBUSTION ENGINES; STARTING AIDS FOR SUCH ENGINES, NOT OTHERWISE PROVIDED FOR
- F02N2200/00—Parameters used for control of starting apparatus
- F02N2200/04—Parameters used for control of starting apparatus said parameters being related to the starter motor
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- F—MECHANICAL ENGINEERING; LIGHTING; HEATING; WEAPONS; BLASTING
- F02—COMBUSTION ENGINES; HOT-GAS OR COMBUSTION-PRODUCT ENGINE PLANTS
- F02N—STARTING OF COMBUSTION ENGINES; STARTING AIDS FOR SUCH ENGINES, NOT OTHERWISE PROVIDED FOR
- F02N2200/00—Parameters used for control of starting apparatus
- F02N2200/06—Parameters used for control of starting apparatus said parameters being related to the power supply or driving circuits for the starter
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- F—MECHANICAL ENGINEERING; LIGHTING; HEATING; WEAPONS; BLASTING
- F02—COMBUSTION ENGINES; HOT-GAS OR COMBUSTION-PRODUCT ENGINE PLANTS
- F02N—STARTING OF COMBUSTION ENGINES; STARTING AIDS FOR SUCH ENGINES, NOT OTHERWISE PROVIDED FOR
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- F02N2200/06—Parameters used for control of starting apparatus said parameters being related to the power supply or driving circuits for the starter
- F02N2200/064—Battery temperature
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- F—MECHANICAL ENGINEERING; LIGHTING; HEATING; WEAPONS; BLASTING
- F02—COMBUSTION ENGINES; HOT-GAS OR COMBUSTION-PRODUCT ENGINE PLANTS
- F02N—STARTING OF COMBUSTION ENGINES; STARTING AIDS FOR SUCH ENGINES, NOT OTHERWISE PROVIDED FOR
- F02N2200/00—Parameters used for control of starting apparatus
- F02N2200/12—Parameters used for control of starting apparatus said parameters being related to the vehicle exterior
- F02N2200/122—Atmospheric temperature
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- F—MECHANICAL ENGINEERING; LIGHTING; HEATING; WEAPONS; BLASTING
- F02—COMBUSTION ENGINES; HOT-GAS OR COMBUSTION-PRODUCT ENGINE PLANTS
- F02N—STARTING OF COMBUSTION ENGINES; STARTING AIDS FOR SUCH ENGINES, NOT OTHERWISE PROVIDED FOR
- F02N2300/00—Control related aspects of engine starting
- F02N2300/20—Control related aspects of engine starting characterised by the control method
- F02N2300/2008—Control related aspects of engine starting characterised by the control method using a model
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- the system comprises at least one temperature measuring element configured so as to measure at least one temperature related to the electric starter motor.
- the process is here configured so as to determine the status indicator on the further basis of said at least one measured temperature. Taking the temperature into account in this way is advantageous, as environmental changes (such as those depending on seasonal variations and/or geographical cond itions) can be weighed in in the diagnostic method in a natural and adequate manner.
- the viscosity of the oil in the combustion engine in fact varies considerably with the temperature, which is in turn reflected in the measured rpm .
- said object is achieved by means of the method described above, wherein a respective value for the status indicator in connection with a number of activations of the electric starter motor is stored in a storage element in the form of a data series.
- the data series is analyzed and , on the basis of said analysis, a determination is made as to whether or not the function of the electric starter motor is acceptable. An error code is generated if the function is not determined to be acceptable.
- said object is achieved by means of a computer program that is directly downloadable to the internal memory of a computer, and that comprises software for controlling the steps according to the method proposed above, wherein said program is run on a computer.
- the computer can in turn be represented by a control unit in the system, a diagnostics unit connected thereto, a tablet computer, a smartphone etc.
- said object is achieved by means of a computer-readable medium with a program stored thereon , wherein the program is adapted so as to enable a computer to control the steps according to the method proposed above.
- Figure 1 shows a schematic depiction of a proposed system
- Figures 2a-b show graphs of examples of how the status indicator can change over time
- Figure 3 shows a flow diagram that illustrates the general method according to the invention .
- Figure 1 shows a schematic depiction of a system according to the invention for diagnostics of an electric starter motor 1 10.
- the electric starter motor 1 10 is arranged so as to start a combustion engine 120, and can thus be included in a motor vehicle.
- the proposed system can just as well be integrated into a stationary machine, such as an electrical generator or stone crusher.
- the electric starter motor 1 10 is advantageously powered by a battery 135.
- the proposed system comprises measuring elements 130 and 140, a processor 160 and a storage element 1 70. It is also advantageous if at least one temperature measuring element (not shown) is included in the system .
- the measuring elements 130 and 140 are respectively configured so as to measure a supply voltage U to the starter motor 1 10 and an rpm RPM of the combustion engine 120.
- the rpm RPM of the combustion engine 120 will be discussed throughout in the description that follows. Because the starter motor 1 10 and the combustion engine 120 are coupled together (for example via a so-called Bendix clutch), there is naturally a correlation between the rpm of the combustion engine 120 and the rpm of the starter motor 1 10, with the resu lt that a measured rpm for the starter motor 1 10 can be utilized just as well as the proposed rpm RPM of the combustion engine 120.
- the temperature measuring element is configured so as to measure at least one temperature related to the machine in which the starter motor 1 10 is included .
- Said at least one temperature can , for example, pertain to an ambient temperature, an oil temperature in the eng ine, a cooling fluid temperature, an engine block temperature, a starter motor temperature and/or a battery temperature.
- the start conditions can vary most considerably, it is advantageous to reg ister two or more data series M in parallel, where the status indicators S within a given data series M have been generated under similar conditions, such as ambient temperature T, battery voltage U , start type (cold , semi-hot or hot). This is advantageous, as it makes it possible to determine whether a given start went worse (or better) than a previous start under corresponding circumstances. This also makes it possible for the decision regarding the generation of any error code E to be made based on adequate grounds, with the result that the reliability of the error code E is relatively high .
- the processor 160 can consequently be configured so as to take into account at least one parameter that describes the conditions under which the status indicator S was generated . If the status indicator S is determined to have been generated under a first type of cond itions, then the processor 1 60 is further configured so as to guide the storage of the status ind icator to a first data series in the storage element 1 70. If the status indicator S is instead determined to have been generated under a second type of conditions, then the processor 160 is configured so as to guide the storage of the status indicator S to a second data series in the storage element 1 70, and so on . The processor 160 then analyzes each data series individually and determines, on the basis thereof, whether the function of the electric motor 1 10 is acceptable. The processor 160 generates an error code E in the event that the function is not determined to be acceptable.
- the system also comprises elements for processing the error code E in their turn.
- the error code E can constitute the basis for generating an acoustical and/or visual signal intended to be perceived by an operator.
- the error code E can be stored in a memory unit to be read out during a later workshop visit.
- the system can further comprise elements for generating a signal intended to be transferred to monitoring equipment (for example in a workshop) connected to the system, and/or elements for generating a wireless signal intended to be transferred by means of at least one communication network to a monitoring node. Convenient remote monitoring of the function of the electric starter motor 1 10 is thereby made possible.
- Figure 2a shows a first graph of an example of how the status indicator S can change over time, wherein the horizontal axis represents a number n of activations of the starter motor 1 10 and the vertical axis represents the values for the status indicator S in a data series M .
- Figure 2b shows a second graph with the same values for the status indicator S, but here the horizontal axis instead represents chronological time t.
- the horizontal axis thus represents not only a sequence, but rather reflects a common chronolog ical distance between the values in the data series M .
- the activations of the electric starter motor 1 10 that are contained in the data series M are consecutive, i.e. there are no gaps in the data series M , and the values therein are processed in the order in which they were stored .
- the slope of the graph R t- 3 t-2 between a measurement instance t -3 and a measurement instance t -2 respectively corresponding to the activations n-3 and n-2 is relatively flat, while the slope of the graph R n . 3:n . 2 between n-3 and n-2 is relatively steep.
- the slope of the graph R t0 : ti between a measurement instance t 0 and a measurement instance t respectively corresponding to the activations n+1 is relatively steep, while the slope of the graph R n : n + i between n and n + 1 is relatively flat.
- the first predetermined limit value at wh ich the processor 1 60 is configured so as to generate the error code E will thus depend on whether, in add ition to representing a sequence, the data series M also includes information concerning a common chronolog ical d istance between the values.
- the processor 160 is configured so as to determine a status indicator S on the further basis of one or a plurality of the aforementioned temperatures.
- the measuring elements 130 and 140 are suitably configured so as to measure the technical parameters during a measurement interval, such as 1 second , during which measurement interval , for example, 10 separate measurements are registered .
- the measurement interval can be adaptively linked to one or a plurality of compression cycles of the combustion engine 120, so that the measurement interval represents a whole number of compression cycles.
- a typical compression cycle is roughly 15 ms long .
- the temperature measuring element is su itably configured so as to measure at least one temperature during a measurement interval .
- the processor 1 60 is naturally configured so as to generate the average for said at least one measured temperature over the measurement interval , and to utilize at least one of said at least one averaged temperatures in determining the status indicator S. It may further be advantageous to adapt the diagnostic method performed by the processor 160 in dependence upon seasonal variations.
- RPM designates a measured rpm during a start attempt
- T designates a measured temperature (such as a characteristic engine temperature)
- N 1 (T) designates an rpm offset at the temperature T
- N2(T) designates an rpm parameter at the temperature T.
- a step 340 determines a status ind icator for the starter motor based on the measured parameters: rpm and su pply voltage.
- the status indicator provides a quality metric for the current performance of the starter motor.
- a step 350 then stores a value for the status indicator in a storage element, after which a step 360 determines whether there are at least two status indicators stored in the storage element in the form of a data series. If such is the case, there follows a step 370. Otherwise the process loops back to step 310.
- the method steps described with reference to Figure 3 can be controlled by means of a programmed computer device.
- the embodiments of the invention described above with reference to the figures comprise a computer and processes performed in a computer
- the invention extends to a computer program, particularly a computer program on or in a carrier adapted so as to implement the invention practically.
- the program can be in the form of source code, object code, a code that constitutes something intermed iate between source and object code, such as code in partly compiled form, or in any other form whatsoever that is suitable for use in implementing the process according to the invention .
- the carrier can be any arbitrary entity or device that is capable of serving as a medium for the program .
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