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Been using cloud-init on Azure Linux VMs for a long time (5+ yrs). Did you experience this on a specific distro?


This was SCVMM on premises hyperv infrastructure not azure.


Azure has an incubation project which is building a Golang CRD generator and a generic Azure resource controller [k8s-infra]. It will likely end up being used in Azure Service Operator [ASO].

[k8s-infra]: https://github.com/Azure/k8s-infra

[ASO]: https://github.com/Azure/azure-service-operator


The management cluster is definitely a pattern. Cluster API is designed to have a management cluster to build workload clusters across region and provider.

https://cluster-api.sigs.k8s.io/


A casual computer user is going to figure out they need to comment out a GRUB line?

Nope. That is an experience that will push them right back to OSX or Windows.


Casual users don't upgrade 2 times a year. A casual user might not even know that those things are called "windows" or that you can maximize them or that most application have settings where you can change the behavior you dislike.

Causal users just use the system how it is, I sometimes find them suffering trough a complicated workflow because they did not consider to even ask themselves "maybe this can be improved, maybe there is a setting to do this or a shortcut or some better way"


> Casual users don't upgrade 2 times a year.

Casual user hears about Linux, and that Ubuntu is the most popular Linux, then goes to the site

https://ubuntu.com/

And reads: "Ubuntu 19.10 is here

The latest version of the world’s most widely used Linux platform for Kubernetes, multi-cloud and machine learning.

Download Ubuntu 19.10 now"

And the problems begin -- he will have to upgrade twice a year.

The branding would have to be different for that not to happen. The LTS should not be called LTS but simply Ubuntu. All the versions between two LTS versions should be called like Ubuntu Developer Preview 19.10, and they should be offered easily on the site.

Then one could claim that the casual user wouldn't use the "Developer Preview" versions.

As it is for years, it's not so. Just explaining what the exact difference between LTS and "newest Ubuntu" and why they are still offered the "newest Ubuntu" on the web page would at best confuse or annoy the "causal user."

The casual user will "the newest" but "the newest that works" and that he "doesn't have to change." Not in the sense that nothing is updated but that the updates aren't invasive to him. And the "newest Ubuntu" versions are invasive -- the last time I've tried such, not even a GUI partition manager worked.


Casual users don't install an OS, as i said they don't even install an ad blocker or change the keyboard shortcuts to an app.

The people you are talking about are enthusiasts, the probably re-installed Windows before too,


> Casual users don't install an OS

Your definition is useless: it would just mean that casual users simply never use Linux OS at all, and aren't supposed to use it, as these with your definition also wouldn't have an awareness to specifically buy a separate computer with preinstalled Linux.

To make a definition of a "Linux casual user" in any way meaningful, you have to assume that it's somebody who would like to try to use Linux, especially without a specific desire to pay for a new computer for that.

Oh, and also without the specific desire and readiness to use command line having the ingrained assumption that the GUI tools simply don't work, which is relatively common case in desktop Linux, even with LTE.

By the way, my quote also shows what Ubuntu consider their casual user, based on the strengths they advertise:

"The latest version of the world’s most widely used Linux platform for Kubernetes, multi-cloud and machine learning."

I'd say, from their point of view, the target user on that page is, interestingly, somebody who needs but is undecided which Linux platform to use for "Kubernetes, multi-cloud and machine learning."

Which is also interesting, but also doesn't follow that such a person would expect his installed OS to have broken applications every 6 months because of OS experimentation in compositors or whatever.


OK, so you were meaning casual Linux user not a casual computer user.

In my definition a casual user has his computer setup and managed by somebody else. Someone that helps the casual person to buy the laptop/PC that fits their budget and needs, that installs the browser and extensions for them, that installs the apps they need like Skype.Word installs the printer and other devices for them.

Someone that can installs Linux (usually you need to go in BIOS/UEFI to enable boot order and disable secure boot and other shit) is not a casual in my opinion.

Do you think that Ubuntu users are the casuals and Arch are the power users? I will disagree with that, I used Arch in the past but now I am happy with Kubuntu LTS just because a DE and OS is a launcher for my applications and not a identity.

About Ubuntu home page, I assume Canonical is not trying to target the casuals with that page, casuals can't just download and install Ubuntu on any random laptop or PC, there s also no money to be made.


When clicking the Download link on Ubuntu.com, the LTS version for both desktop and server is highlighted in green:

https://ubuntu.com/#download

The design of the ubuntu.com download buttons encourages people to download the LTS version while making the latest stable version easy to find as well.


These things kinda happen everywhere though:

https://www.techradar.com/how-to/macos-1014-mojave-problems-...


Darwin and NT x.0 releases have the same tenancy to break, the same advice to wait for x.0.1, and less ability to fix it yourself.


I was just being honest that there are still some unforseeable difficulties, as well as mistakes that I have made. I think any operating system can present challenges that are difficult for novice users. That's why we have user groups, tech support, and repair services.


For quite a few, it is a _main_ goal for the speakers to either draw attention to their company's product or to provide an air of thought leadership on behalf of their company.


Of course it is. Any conference being paid for in one way of another by companies will do the companies bidding. He who holds the gold makes the rules, as they say.

But trying going to a conference that isn't organised by a company, or as a venue for companies to show their products. They exist. They are usually associated with open source groups/meetups of some kind. In some ways they are very vanilla - no fancy food or hotels, nobody actually pays for that crap out of their own pocket.

But the talks - the talks are from a different world. Nobody is there to talk about their company. It's engineers talking to other engineers. Some are serious, some are playful, some are seriously nuts, but all know they are talking to their peers and are not game to spout too much bullshit. If they don't believe it, it doesn't get said. It's like comparing the comments on HN to the journalistic output on a mass media site.


Isn't this the point of licensing?

The author or company building the software requires money in exchange for using their software. The revenue acquired through the license is then use to pay for additional development.

Revenue sharing seems to imply some kindness / goodwill agreement.


I reckon they’re doing what people from some parts call a commission

Paying for a license won’t get you customers but paying for referrals will


Check out https://gobuffalo.io/en/docs/testing/

Coming from a rails background, this was the closest out of the box testing experience. Tests are generally handled within a transaction and also offer fixtures and other goodies. Definitely recommend giving it a test drive.


> Of course, the stateful service feature is lost. But k8s does not have that feature either.

Persistent Volume Claims go a long way toward the stateful service "feature".

To go another step further on stateful services, SF's stateful services are only supported in a couple languages. Where mounting a volume in K8s which will follow your container is pretty darn accessible to any language.


You sure that's AMQP 1.0 or 0.9? I say that b/c ActiveMQ is AMQP 1.0 (http://activemq.apache.org/amqp.html) and RabbitMQ is probably running 0.9 unless you are using the experimental 1.0 plugin.

Nearly all the libraries working with AMQP 0.9 will not function when targeting an AMQP 1.0 service.


Also took it before the chat bot... :(

If you are thinking about a masters in CS, you must check out the OMSCS program. The cost to value ratio is completely off the charts!

"total program cost of about $6,600 over five terms"


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