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It has to be enabled https://deploy-preview-6262--frigate-docs.netlify.app/configuration/ |
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Previous beta releases had a pinned conversation with lots of info on what was added and what changed since the last stable version... I dont see that for ver 13.x... am I missing something or did it get moved somewhere else? I am picking thru this conversation to see what has changed and how to update the config file for the new version. |
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This is all covered in the release notes (which have been there for every version) https://github.com/blakeblackshear/frigate/releases/tag/v0.13.0-beta1 |
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Thanks. For those not wanting to go fishing, here is the config you need to add/change: Edit, that actually doesn't get the stats for me, what am I missing? |
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Most appreciated!! |
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Where should I see these statistics? I get nothing about network in system page.
This is my config: |
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FYI. Mine is already running privledged and this is the config: PS. I checked my interfaces and I have lo & eth0. However, I did try just eth without the 0 and it made no difference. I also tried True & true, no difference... |
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What if you try what I suggested |
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I've also run those commands, see the output inside the shell window:
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Right, the command you ran should be what happens when network_interfaces is set to [] |
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Apologies @NickM-27 , I thought you mean't add the interface list, not actually put the [] .... Currently: I added it and restarted, still can't see any network info in the system page :( |
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Does audio contribute to the camera's motion? For example, I have the following: record:
enabled: true
sync_on_startup: true
retain:
days: 7
mode: motionWill record be triggered if there is audio "motion" detected even if camera is covered? |
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yes, if audio volume is detected > min_volume then that segment will be retained under the retention mode |
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Running on docker container in a Unraid server: I have added the Audio detection: And assigned to the restream on each 7 TAPO cameras like so: I have a massive CPU impact and I don't see any event:
I'm using this youtube video to test the meow detection: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsKCwt0ADqk&t=24s And also I'm talking alone loudly, but there's no events. There no information/errors in the logs. |
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With a lower min_volume I can see events but sadly meow recognition is not working very good... |
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yeah, for me |
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For unRaid, did you have to install manually or is the beta in the app store somewhere? |
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All you need to do is change the image to the new beta one and make sure the full config directory is mapped |
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Export is not working for me. I have this record retain config: If I ask just for one day it gives me an error:
And I see this in the logs: If I ask for more days it says:
I see this in the logs: And nothing happens. The media is there I can open it with VLC. |
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Can you try with selecting the times as well? 400 gets returned when it can't find the any recording segments for the requested time. Lines 1637 to 1649 in 9185753 |
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And I don't any file. |
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Yeah, for some reason it is not seeing any recording segments for that camera at that time. I am trying a similar export and it is working as expected for me with my camera that has |
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Now it is working without any changes:
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I'm getting an error when I try to setup the onvif functionality.
Here is my config for the camera: Going into my camera's control panel here is the setup for onvif: Since I don't have onvif Auth on I didn't include the admin or pass in the onvif config above. Using Onvier on my Android I can confirm the onvif functionality is on port 80 and I can use the ptz in that app. Is there any additional logging I can turn on to see what might be the issue? |
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Using the HA onvif integration I am also unable to get the movement relevant controls for my C210 HW1 Firmware: 1.3.1 |
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that is incorrect, I already looked at that and tried using it, the version that home asisstant uses requires features from python 3.10 / 3.11 |
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It says it targets python3.9 but it fails to start |
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and here we can see that ParamSpec is new in python 3.11 https://docs.python.org/3/library/typing.html#typing.ParamSpec |
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Hello, just came to say that using 0.13-rc1 with a Tapo c210 fw 1.3.11 and onvif is working seemingly as expected both with frigate and home assistant Tapo camera control add on, not sure if it's a firmware fix or what? That said I've only tried movement, not setup auto tracking so not sure if that side works yet |
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It looks like I'm having an issue Generating Models for Nvidia:
If I remove the "- YOLO_MODELS" from the docker compose and have it generate the default yolov7-320 then it will create the yolov7-320.trt and it will boot up without issues. Any suggestions on how to debug this further? |
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Try removing double quotes |
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This appears to have solved it. Thank you. |
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Had this problem- Docs need updating: Specifically the code snippet: |
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already have a PR up for it |
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This error is covered in the docs, you need to increase SHM |
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Yes, sorry. I realized I stupidly never searched for that error until right after I posted and then found it so I deleted my post. Weird it wasn't an issue before, though I have always had cameras go offline several times a day and just setup and automation to watch for it and restart Frigate. Never put the time into figuring it out but maybe I've finally solved that. Go ahead and delete this thread, and sorry again! |
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@NathanVanCleave No harm leaving the post. It could help others in the future who search for the same issue and then find the answer |
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A question about audio detection... Is there any difference in CPU load with respect to different audio formats (AAC, PCM, G.711A, G.711Mu, G.726, G.723)? |
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I haven't tested but I don't think there should be much of a difference. In any case it is extremely minimal load, on my server the ffmpeg audio process for my camera with pcmu (G.711Mu) is using 0.1% of a single CPU core |
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If it helps any, my cameras are pcma and I get the same amount of process usage as @NickM-27 |
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Hmm. How to get rid of this ?
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you delete the file in /exports |
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@NickM-27 any possibility of getting an option to delete an export from the web UI? |
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The way it's implemented currently I'm not sure |
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Just saw your pull request #7882 @NickM-27! Many thanks for adding this! |
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With the new motion settings does anyone have any recommended settings for 4K detect streams? I seem to be getting lots of very small motion boxes randomly. |
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Higher resolution definitely helps with objects that are smaller (to a certain point), I have side by side tests showing people / dogs walking away from the camera and the higher resolution directly correlates to that person / dog being tracked for longer at further distances. It of course depends on the camera, fov, scene, etc. especially when doing things with face recognition or plate reading, the higher detect resolution helps there as well |
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Here is an example comparing the same example clip, the Screen.Recording.2023-09-15.at.12.52.56.PM.mov |
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and an example with dog in the backyard, where 720 height leads to better detection results vs 360 recording.mov |
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Im now using the 1280x720 and default settings. it seems to pick up the cats pretty well. only problem is with no perceived motion im getting lots of motion boxes in debug, one of my cameras is running at around 60fps detect and the other at about 30fps. would increasing the threshold be the way to reduce this? |
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Yeah threshold is probably a good place to start. |
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I maybe lost here but, how does PTZ work on the beta HA integration? Is it only the service so we can call it to modify the position or it's suppsed to have individual controls for movement? Not related to Frigate specifically but I'm guessing you can't overlay PTZ controls on the more-info dialog of a camera? |
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it is a service that you can call, either as a The main usecase for that would be moving to different presets via service calls or having the frigate card call move on a button press and then stop on a button release in a future version of frigate more things like absolute move (move x degrees) and relative move will be supported in the HA integration |
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Been running the beta for the past few days and I finally ran into an error I haven't ran into before. Motion captured a opossum last night, created an event and a snap shot but when I went to go pull the video they were all 2kb files. Pulling open the log I was greeted with this error over and over again: I restarted Frigate and its all back to normal. Anything I need to adjust or look out for that would cause this and keep it from coming back? |
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opencv is used for calculating the duration of the segment. if it fails then ffprobe is used. this seems to indicate the recording stream was sending bad data or corrupt segments for some reason |
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How these timelapse videos should work ? I tried to make some test video between 5pm-6pm and it took quite a lot time and frigate crashed. I got about 20min timelapsevideo which was approx 1 min long. It seems that frigate crashed creating that video, because my ram and swap become full. How it would be working with full day video ? Do I need terabytes of ram ? Will there be some options to create those ? Eg. lower the resolution and maybe some quality settings and maybe settings how long video should be? Would there be optio to choose eg. 1min video which covers complete day or something like that? |
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yeah, creating a timelapse is not a trivial task as every segment needs to be decoded. We will be looking at other timelapse options to add |
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I think that resource hogging is not problem as long as it does not crash the machine. Is there maybe possibility to add some priority (nice) option for creating timelapse ? Of course I understand that timelapse is not main purpose of the frigate, but very nice add indeed. |
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Timelapse finally finished. :) It created huge 21GB file. Video is one hour long. I would prefer muuuuuch shorter timelapse. :) |
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Yes the current time lapse option is aimed at turning 24 hours into 1 hour of playback. The PR I put above will include that customization |
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I don't see any difference when enabling improve contrast or disabling it. |
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you don't see any difference in what exactly? where are you looking for a difference? |
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I thought that it would be noticeable in the camera's image. For example, as a lighter or darker picture. |
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no, it is only applied at the motion detection level, it does not change the detect image at all |
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I'm super excited for this release but I have to say that I'm not a fan of this change:
What's the goal, to separate them so that the db is local instead of on the NAS? Conceptually, the db is not "config" and I don't think it makes sense to put them together. How about adding a separate path for the db so people can choose where to put it? And if this path doesn't exist then fall back to the current default which will make this a non-breaking change. |
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well, frigate already supports in 0.12 including a custom go2rtc binary (for example a newer version) in /config and frigate will use that instead of the built in one. also, in 0.13 there is already a |
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model_cache? Is this something that is built and modified by frigate during runtime like the db? If so /config seems like a very poor choice, will there be a config option to move that like the DB? I also keep my config file in git and actually just have a pipeline that builds a docker image that copies my config file into the image and redeploys, if we start putting in files that really should belong in a "/var" style folder in the "/config" this will become problematic. |
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You can always mount a volume at |
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Very true. Is there a specific reason to have /config overloaded like this and not just having say a /data for non-config items? |
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we have to adhere to the folders that are available to addons in home assistant and the behavior that each folder comes with. it also makes it easier for less experienced users to have data in one place and not worry about mounting as many volumes. also worth noting that home assistant similarly keeps the database, config file, and many other things inside |
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It's probably worth noting in the release notes that the migrations can take a long time to run, delaying full startup. My install took about 8 minutes for them to fully be applied. ... ... |
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Getting some masked area detections with the new Beta, not sure if there's something I need to change? For example, here is the masked area, and notification clip stills: I've checked the video clip recordings and at no point did the persons cross into the unmasked area |
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motion masks will not stop objects from being detected, and this is not how motion masks are meant to be used. You should be using required zones if you do not want events for objects in uninteresting areas https://docs.frigate.video/configuration/masks |
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interesting, I haven't changed the mask from Beta 12 and didn't have this behavior before, I'm assuming this is because of the new motion detection method being used? I understand this part: |
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I'm seeing shadows on the floor. In my experience the new motion detection settings are more sensitive so motion may have been detected on the lower part of the frame by wind blowing on the trees and then the person got captured. Just a guess tho |
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I have noticed that motion is now being detected way more than before. I've taken a look at the draft and have increased contour_area and motion thresholds but a lot of motion boxes are now detected. I have an automation to turn off the lights if no one is in the room but once they turn off a lot of motion boxes pop up and trigger false positives of people detection (I have a low people threshold so it turns on the lights faster). I'll start trying with lighting_threshold to see if it improves. This in IR mode of the camera on a 720p substream |
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Have you tried playing with improve_contrast? That's what the guide recommends lightning_threshold will not help in this situation |
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Yes, enabling it or disabling makes no difference. The only thing that helps is making motion harder to be detected but then, when I go through the door it won't notice me unless i stand close to the camera (therefore filling a bigger part of the frame and changing more pixels) |
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if you don't mind exporting a 1-2 minute clip from that camera during this time and emailing it to me [email protected] that would be really helpful |
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I have 6 cameras in total, 1 at each corner of the house and a couple dedicated to the entrances in the front and the back. Is it really necessary to have audio enabled on all 6 of them? several of the camera are literally 10 feet apart. It makes logical sense that 1 camera per side of the house should be sufficient for picking up a sound. |
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I only have a few of my cameras listening for audio |
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Ok silly issue...on my config.yml, I get errors when I try to add things like telemetry or audio. Basically it doesn't see them as options. What am I doing wrong? In logs, it shows that it has loaded the config without errors and I have using a second instance in unraid with the container pointing to the beta folder I created. |
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that would just mean that the wrong version of frigate is picking the wrong config or something |
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This line at the top of your config: Probably points to the older instance you have. |
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That was it...thanks! |
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One more question: In the release notes it says "Default values have been changed for motion detection. If you have specific values set in your config, it is recommended to remove them and re-calibrate as necessary." Which section would this be in config? Is it where width, height, fps is or different? Thanks! |
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it would be any properties of the |
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It seems that if I use in Zone, for example, person filters, Frigate no longer generates events for that object. In debug screen motion and region boxes appear around the person, but bounding boxes do not appear. I have tried different max and min areas an thresholds, but nothing helps. If I remove zone filter, then everything works as planned and it is using detect filters. Motion settings are defaults and I don't use required_zones option in event. Outside that zone detecting work in both cases. The zone is closer to the camera, so I would like to use a higher threshold and a larger min&max_area value for this zone. |
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in mqttexplorer i only see the update from end to new, i do not receive new, in ha if i put {{ trigger.payload_json['type'] != 'update'}} works if i change to {{ trigger.payload_json['type'] == 'new'}} the automation is never fired, again only in this camera that i have zones, the other works ok with {{ trigger.payload_json['type'] == 'new'}} |
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this is not an update from end to new. They are completely different events that are unrelated to each other |
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it is possible the other event had |
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I would suggest creating an issue separately and include the full automation yaml. This sounds like an automation issue not something related to 0.12 -> 0.13 |
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thanks i will do, even if the automation is the same, didn't change it. |
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When doing negative reporting to Frigate+ after an image was uploaded and I open the Frigate+ console. Do I undtag the false detection aka remove the border around not a "person" or do I leave the tag because it is used as negative weight while training the model? |
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Leave the tag. You would only remove it if you accidentally reported a false positive. |
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I just updated to the last version available (dev-080d7a2) from v12, I really glad to say that there is a noticeable reduction in the amount of CPU used (I've disabled the GPU & Net from the telemetry reported because I noticed a high overhead).... thank you! however I've to say that I did noticed a weird issue that I'm almost sure is due to go2rtc... basically when I try to open a webRTC stream from Firefox in Linux, the connection to the camera is reset... this doesn't happen with my phone, tablet, etc.... and the only error I see is "unable to populate media section, RTPSender created with no codecs".... as long as I don't open a stream in Linux everything is stable I've updated an issue in the go2rtc project with all the details: |
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thanks for commenting, glad to hear you are seeing reduced CPU usage. |
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I was looking at the API for creating a manual event. Nice feature! How it is designed now, is that the event is based on live footage. What I would like to have is function to add an event based on footage in the past. This would also solve the situation as described here. Extra input parameter would be the start epoch of the event, probably with a mandatory duration. What do you think about this? |
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The only possible error that I come up to is that not all segments are there, what else can go wrong?
Without having looked into the event pipeline, the only thing that would not make sense in this case is sending MQTT messages for things that already took place. Or are there other things that would not make sense in this use case? |
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a user may have event only recording, create a custom event with a start time of 30 seconds ago and then be frustrated when that event can't be created. I see a lot of edge cases that would come with this, and cases where it isn't that useful.
mqtt messages are not sent for any custom events when I say event pipeline I am referring to the code / structure itself my point in general is created events from past happenings is really an entirely different usecase than the feature is designed to solve |
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Of course there are some constraints and boundary conditions that are required for this method to function, but that's also the case with how the function is designed now. Thinking out loud:
I would say that is even easier to generate an event based on footage in the past than it is to do so on live footage. All conditions can be checked. For a live event you might have to wait for "PUT /api/events/<event_id>/end" call, that might never come. |
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@blakeblackshear @NickM-27 I've tested this functionality on a local branch, and I don't see any problems with it. It work like it should, events in the past show you'd expect. Would you consider to add this function? I can push it to my fork to have it reviewed if you want. |
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Like I said previously, I have no concern about whether or not it works under ideal circumstances. I have 2 main concerns:
Overall, I think this adds complication to an otherwise relatively simple feature implementation and I don't personally know if this is something that many users will use. In the case that it is not widely used, that would make maintaining the extra complexity not worth it IMO. All of that being said, if Blake thinks this is something that is worth implementing then I'm good with that. |
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0.13 looks great. Quite an increase on default CPU usage from 0.12 in my case, but I will re-tune motion for my cameras and see if that gets it back in line. I do also have cameras running at higher resolutions (in one case for face ID purposes, and in another to detect smaller objects on wide-angle cameras) so will try the frame_height tweak as well and see if that improves detection. Only issue I've noticed so far is that when restarting for a config change, I just had Frigate take exactly 2 minutes to shutdown. Here's a look at The only known issue I have in my setup currently is that some of my cheap revotech cameras do occasionally have issues streaming, and I have 1 camera on Wifi that similarly drops out from time to time. |
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As another commenter has said, quite a bit more cpu usage in this new beta, but what I'm curious about is how the CPU usage in the System part gets calculated? There seems to be a big discrepancy between those numbers and the actual CPU usage. For example, my current overall CPU usage for the frigate docker container hovers between 60 and 75% of my i7-9700K. But when I check the system stats here is what I have:
Which all adds up to about 13.9%, not very close to the actual 60~75% current usage. I know these stats are mostly "point in time" but I've checked numerous times and the total reported CPU usage never comes close to the actual usage. Am I missing something? Is there another datapoint regarding CPU usage that I should in the config?
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CPU% calculation is platform dependent based on the underlying library, and looks to be documented here: https://psutil.readthedocs.io/en/latest/#psutil.Process.cpu_percent frigate/frigate/util/services.py Line 99 in cfd04d1 Not sure how that would change with Docker containers (I did look at this a while back but all the code seems to have changed since), but one possible explanation is if you've limited the available CPU cores to your Docker container. If your CPU has 8 cores/threads and you've limited the container to 2, depending on a few other factors you could be getting a figure that's out by 4x. |
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we've had some reports of increased CPU usage and other users report lower CPU usage. For me CPU usage is about half what it was in 0.12 (10% total CPU usage to 5% total CPU usage). If you hover your mouse over the new info icons the calculations are explained in greater detail 
The % shown in the frigate system page are of a single CPU core, and it seems whatever you are using to calculate frigate usage must be doing something similar because based on the system page not much CPU is being used at all |
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I think I got a bit further, the discrepancy between frigate reported cpu usage and actual cpu usage (I can confirm that Frigate has access to all cores of my CPU and is the only running docker that uses 60~70% of the server's total CPU) is due to some ffmpeg processes that are not reported in the system dashboard, I compared the output of When I run The odd thing is that in my quest to identify the CPU hog, I disabled all the go2rtc steams from the dashboard: Maybe I need to look into why the ffmpeg process itself is using so much CPU, I also have the nvidia preset but I'm not sure it gets used as it should: any ideas on what I could be doing differently? |
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the hwaccel preset does not apply to go2rtc because that is separate you are not using your nvidia GPU for this, you must use the also, removing the stream from go2rtc does not stop the ongoing streams |
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That was indeed the main culprit, CPU usage in Frigate's System page now more closely matches my reported docker CPU usage. In case anyone is having similar issues, here is the config that ended up working for me, had to change a few things and use |
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These timelapse videos are amazing, but we really need a lot of settings for determining the size of the videos. Additionally, it would be great if these could be created automatically, for example, every day. As an example, a timelapse could be created every night at 00:00 from the previous day, scaled to 720p resolution, with the entire day condensed into 2 minutes. Furthermore, in the future, it could be possible to "slow down" the timelapse at detected event points. |
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In the next beta there will be direct access to the ffmpeg video output settings and you'll be able to customize it per camera. There are no plans for time lapse output options to be in the UI for this release.
This can be done with a cron job or any automation platform and the API, I also plan to add a service in HA to be able to run exports as well |
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This is a good way to approach this task, as it is not the primary purpose of Frigate. |
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I couldn't find a discussion already for 0.13.0 Beta 1.
I was just reading the logs and saw this in the changes:
Add go2rtc & remote detectors network bandwidth usage to System table by @skrashevich in #6526However, my system page doesn't appear to have network bandwidth. Am I missing it?
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