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WebMAN game keep prompting me to update #1060

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larsenv opened this issue Apr 18, 2024 · 35 comments
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WebMAN game keep prompting me to update #1060

larsenv opened this issue Apr 18, 2024 · 35 comments

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larsenv commented Apr 18, 2024

I'm trying to play Geometry Wars on my PS3, but every time I launch it, it prompts me to download then install update data. I tried to do it and now it's looping and making me do it over and over again. I can exit it though, but what am I supposed to do? I put the rap file in the exdata folder and tried installing via apollo with a spare device which is fat32. My USB which I want to use is formatted as ntfs

Also, TV Show King has a package to unlock the game, and I installed it, but it still doesn't seem to acknowledge it's on

Apollo save tool keeps prompting me to update every time I load it. I can load games on the internal hdd, but on the external hdd this problem occur

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larsenv commented Apr 18, 2024

@aldostools

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larsenv commented Apr 18, 2024

This issue has been frustrating for me, I asked elsewhere and I couldn't get a valid solution

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In Apollo you can uncheck the option Version Update Check in Settings
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In the update is being asked by PKG games launch from external storage, try installing them on the internal HDD

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larsenv commented Apr 18, 2024

I have already confirmed it works if I use the HDD which is internal, but I'm confused because I couldn't find anyone else with the problem. My internal HDD's only 60GB so I want to if possible install to the external HDD, which is in ntfs. Could it be an issue with my game? I used liberator to convert it to iso

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PSN liberator may cause issues with some games that use hard coded paths instead of relative paths.

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larsenv commented Apr 18, 2024

Call of Duty Black Ops II was also giving me the issue. However, games are supposed to update without any kind of looping am I right

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Yes, but it depends. It could loop if the updates were installed in wrong order or if the title id changed or if the update cannot write to the storage device (e.g /net0, BD or DVD discs, etc.) among other reasons.

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larsenv commented Apr 19, 2024

Thanks, I have turned on external USB data and it has significantly helped, only problem is that it's quite slow. I'm surprised that no one's reported this issue before. Was I doing something wrong?

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Games in PKG format or JB folders are extremely slow when they execute from external USB drive.

For USB drives it's recommended to use split ISO for FAT32 or single ISO for NTFS or exFAT (split ISO is also supported).

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larsenv commented Apr 21, 2024

you can only use external game data on fat32 right

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Right. PS3 does not allow other file systems for external devices than FAT32.

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larsenv commented Apr 21, 2024

Is there a good option to convert the pkg to iso and keep the update embedded?

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PSN Liberator is an easy method to convert PKG games to ISO
https://www.psx-place.com/resources/psn-liberator.869

Not all games are compatible. Note: It's flagged as "virus" by Chrome. As far as I know it's a false positive. Anyway use with care.

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larsenv commented Apr 21, 2024

I was using that but it prompted me to update the game so what can I do, and how can I make sure it splits it for fat32?

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aldostools commented Apr 21, 2024

Download the PKGs of the game and its updates. Then extract them to a folder in the correct order (first game, then updates in sequential order if there are more than one PKG).

Use PSN Game Folder to create the ISO. It shouldn't ask for update since you're creating the ISO already updated.

You can extract the DLC in the folder too or include them in the PS3_EXTRA folder.

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larsenv commented Apr 21, 2024

After all this time I figured out I can take the hdd out of the bottom of my phat and then upgrade it, I feel dumb now, would all I need to do is reinstall the packages?

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I'm not sure what you're trying to do 🤕

If you reinstall the PKGs the games will be played from the internal HDD except if you activated external Game Data.

If the PKGs are extracted to a subfolder in /GAMEI of a FAT32 disk the game can be mounted through app_home icon using webMAN MOD. In this format the game folder can be easily updated just copying the files of the game update over the existing files.

To update the files in ISO format you need to extract the ISO and rebuild it again.

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larsenv commented Apr 21, 2024

I was trying to play games off an external hdd because my internal hdd doesn't have much storage. I figured out that I can open the cover on the bottom of the unit and take out the hard drive and then upgrade it, which is much easier than I believed it would be. I wanted to know if my content will easily transfer over if I upgrade it

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should, pretty sure the external drive stuff just applies redirects in memory, the game files are left alone so you should be able to just copy them into the correct place on the internal drive and have them show up iirc

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I was trying to play games off an external hdd because my internal hdd doesn't have much storage. I figured out that I can open the cover on the bottom of the unit and take out the hard drive and then upgrade it, which is much easier than I believed it would be. I wanted to know if my content will easily transfer over if I upgrade it

If you upgrade your HDD you need to re-install all the packages in /dev_hdd0/game. It's highly recommended that before upgrade you make a backup of your /dev_hdd0/home directory. In that location are stored the saves, trophies, licenses, messages and other important information for the user.

should, pretty sure the external drive stuff just applies redirects in memory, the game files are left alone so you should be able to just copy them into the correct place on the internal drive and have them show up iirc

Yes, the files external drive are redirected in memory by the backup managers to /dev_bdvd. When the ISO games are played, the system first searches the content in HDD and the rest of the content in /dev_bdvd.

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larsenv commented Apr 23, 2024

my last question is if it's possible to install pkg in batch if you have em on ntfs

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larsenv commented Apr 23, 2024

to the hdd

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larsenv commented Apr 23, 2024

not on the actual external

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No, unless you create an ISO containing all the packages that you want to install in batch.

You can install a batch of packages on FAT32 or remote folder mounted as /dev_bdvd using Install All Packages from side menu of Package Manager > Install Package Files > Standard.

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larsenv commented Apr 24, 2024

What would you use to create the ISO? Would it install to the HDD? and if you wanna play ps1 or ps2 games would it be possible to put them on internal hdd and does it support eyetoy

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To create PS3 ISO from GAMES folder in PS3 use: multiMAN, IRISMAN or ManaGunZ

To dump PS1 or PS2 disc in ISO format from PS3 use: multiMAN. IRISMAN and ManaGunZ can do it too, but I prefer multiMAN.

To create PS3 ISO from folders in PC you can use makeISO included in ps3netsrv or PS3 Tools by Rudy Rastelli.
https://www.psx-place.com/threads/ps3-iso-tools-by-rudi-rastelli.403/

All ISO (ps1, ps2, ps3, psp) can be played from internal HDD or external USB FAT32, NTFS or exFAT.

FAT32 requires the ISO to be split in multiple files due that file system does not support files larger than 4GB.

AFAIK ps2_netemu doesn't support many periferals. I think eyetoy is not supported either.

Not sure if PS3 consoles with PS2 backward compatibility (original fat models) support the eyetoy periferal.

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larsenv commented Apr 24, 2024

Sorry, how do you copy the PS2 games from an external to an internal?

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Use FTP Client or multiMAN File Manager or IRISMAN File Manager.

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larsenv commented Apr 24, 2024

Alright, I'm kind of confused on how you convert the PKG to an ISO containing all of them though? How would you do it, and how do you install it with WebMAN? Sorry regarding all these question

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The compatibility is not good. Anyway here is one tool that allows to conver PKG to ISO easily:
https://www.psx-place.com/threads/psn-liberator-convert-psn-content-to-disc-format.1168/

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larsenv commented Apr 24, 2024

I could try to use pkgsplitter, but it's telling me that a couple of the packages that are over 4GB are FAT32 ready?

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FAT32 does not allow files bigger than 4GB

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larsenv commented Apr 24, 2024

Yes but it wouldn't allow me to properly split when using a ntfs drive

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I recommend you visit my twitter: x.com/aldostools

I have tips and videos that explain all what you're trying to do

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larsenv commented Apr 25, 2024

I'll take it from here, I quit using twitter entirely and can't even visit it anymore without making myself uncomfortable. I think my pkg splitter was being picky

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