Talk:Lou Jing

Blatant POV

This is an article about Lou Jing, not about how the West thinks China is evil and racist. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Huaxia (talk • contribs) 08:16, 4 March 2010 (UTC) So are you going to discuss or is your word the final word, simply because you got it in first? Amusing. Huaxia (talk) 00:52, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Interesting Story

This article deserves some serious attention. Nothing of recent memory has ever emerged to address the sensitive issue of Racism in China until Lou Jing. I've given the entire article a facelift and it is now at least sourced and wikified. Colipon+(Talk) 16:54, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

The fact that you deem it a sensitive issue, does not make it a sensitive issue. Using internet comments to broadly accuse all Chinese people of racism would be about as rational as creating a wikipedia page for every single thread on stormfront. Huaxia (talk) 23:50, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Shoddy reporting from the UK

Not only is the UK press two months late to the story - even the American press picked up on it only a couple of weeks after it became news in China[1] - they also copy each other on some shoddy reporting. Lou Jing was not one of the top five finalists. She was one of the five Shanghai representatives picked to actually appear on the show, which featured contestants from all over the country. She only made it to the top 30 on the show itself. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 19:30, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Family name

Is her "family name" actually Lou? I read somewhere that her Mom's surname is "Sun". Colipon+(Talk) 00:46, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

According to this program, her mother's name is "Sun Min". And Lou Jing speaks Shanghainese extremely well. Colipon+(Talk) 01:02, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Are Chinese racists?

This article has the potential to develope into a major theme: Chinese=Racist? My statement:Inter-racial marriage between white male and Chinese female is more acceptable then that of between black male(not necessary Africans, Indians have darker skin then Chinese, so Indians are regarded as kind of Dark) and Chinese female, this statement was removed by someone. I think this statement express a very important fact, the fact that Chinese do not like people with dark skin(for whatever reason), to the extent that many Chinese girls refused to go under the sun(at least many of my female school mates were like that) because they are afraid of getting a suntan.

Another fact is, Chinese tend to associat dark skin people with laborers, natives(or aboriginals), kind of dirty. Any comments? Arilang ^talk 02:20, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Yes. I think the Raymond Zhou article talks about that and, if you choose to add that back in, perhaps tie it in with his analysis. I think it was removed because it was just not cited at the time. Colipon+(Talk) 02:22, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Zhou never wrote anything about interracial marriage, and specifically, he wrote no comparison on interracial marriages with whites and with blacks. Please read what he wrote again. The relevance of his father being black is because it gave Lou Jing herself dark skin. He was writing about how she is discriminated against because of her dark skin colour. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 15:06, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

I concur. Colipon+(Talk) 15:34, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Well, even though Raymond Zhou did not talk about it, no Chinese can ever deny about it. It is a known fact, that no Chinese is happy to give the hand of their daughter to a "Black fellow". There is no deny about it, regardless of Zhou did say it or not. Arilang ^talk 16:54, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Whether Chinese parents want their daughters to marry black men is not the issue. I agree that in the vast majority of Chinese families, this is the case. But a statement like that should be referenced to a reliable source, or else it is considered unencyclopedic. Colipon+(Talk) 17:34, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

I am Chinese and I deny it. There. Your statement is false. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 18:53, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Lou Jing's Mother

What did Lou Jing's mother do for a living when she met Lou Jing's father?? How could they have a relationship when there was a cultural and language barrier? Sonic99 (talk) 05:11, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Her nationality (citizenship) !?

Well, I want to point out something - While racism in China is a BIG problem, many of those so called "online racist remarks" are targeted for her citizenship. What I mean is that - Since her father is a US Citizen. (According to CNN), then many Chinese point to the fact that she is automatically holding a US Passport, and therefore, as a "foreigner living in China." (resulting the 'get out of China...blah blah blah' stuff follows) According to the Chinese immigration laws, the People's Republic of China only recognizes 1 nationality. Therefore, she has to "give up" a US Passport first, then to trade for a Chinese citizenship, which many would view as a "downgrade" and impossible to for most of the people to comply. TheAsianGURU (talk) 00:22, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

PS: DO NOT launch personal attacks on me! I just pointed out a few things after doing some research online about this person. I, too, hate & fight against racism. TheAsianGURU (talk) 00:27, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

She has Chinese citizenship and has always identified herself as Chinese. That her father is a U.S. citizen in no way automatically makes her a U.S. citizen. Although I imagine it wouldn't be difficult to get a U.S. passport if her dad still has legal guardianship over her - which, I doubt is the case. Colipon+(Talk) 03:52, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

There are several problems with this article. Most alarming is that it claims he father is an American citizen (or even an African-American) without any verifiable source. The authors/editors of the piece also have little understanding of the nature of US birthright law. To clarify, a child born to a mother of non-US citizenship, but to a father of US citizenship, has until the age of 18 to claim their US citizenship. This has nothing to do with guardianship, etc. The father does not even have to know he has a child. (See USSC Nguyen v. Immigration and Naturalization Service). It seems unlikely that Lou Jing would not accept her US citizenship, because it is relatively easy to live in China as a US citizen with PRC citizen parents, and this allows more moblity and economic opportunity for both. If her father was a American, she would probably have US citizenship by now. Above all, my point is this -- PLEASE CITE HER NATIONALITY *AND* HER FATHER'S NATIONALITY FROM A CREDIBLE SOURCE -- this is a sloppy article. Her claiming that her father is African-American doesn't count, and if that's all you've got, then say so. minanjie (talk) 12:16, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

What specifically do you think is inaccurate information on the article? Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 13:38, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

According to chinese language sources her mother claimed that she met her biological father, who was a fellow student at the education establishment in shanghai where her mother was studying. It was shown that there were no americans at that college at that time. This whole article is based upon subjective truths, i.e. non-POV. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.125.74.214 (talk) 10:54, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Anti-Western?

at the end of the page it says Anti-Western sentiment in China.

This statement is questionable sinds black isn't Western, it's African. In the early People's republic the government sent aid to Africa and stated that the black race allong other colo(u)red people have been opressed by Western (European) imperialism.--190.88.61.192 (talk) 15:52, 30 July 2010 (UTC)