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Wikifunctions & Abstract Wikipedia Newsletter #181 is out: New special page for missing labels, new type for Gregorian years, and much more

There is a new update for Abstract Wikipedia and Wikifunctions. Please, come and read it!

In this issue, we introduce a new special page for objects with a missing label, we present two new types (Gregorian year and Wikidata statement rank), we showcase several contributions made by you volunteers, and we take a look at the latest software developments.

Want to catch up with the previous updates? Check our archive!

Enjoy the reading! -- User:Sannita (WMF) (talk) 18:23, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

Question from Royiswariii (05:30, 23 November 2024)

Hello CFA! I'm asking about a WikiProject, I was planning to create a WikiProject but it is hold "In 2024, we are changing the proposal process. We are trying to reduce the number of failed attempts to start groups.". I don't know how will I start a WikiProject, can you give me a tip or help how will I start a WikiProject even it's in hold for proposing a WikiProject? Thanks! --Royiswariii Talk! 05:30, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi Royiswariii. This was done because there are a lot of very inactive WikiProjects on niche subjects that were created and only briefly active before dying off. The point of WikiProjects is to have somewhere where people working in the same subject area can collaborate. They're completely useless without participation from interested editors. I don't think you actually need to go through the official approval process — no one is going to stop you from creating a page in projectspace — but you should probably have at least 10 people interested beforehand. WT:COUNCIL is a good place to ask about stuff like this. Happy editing, C F A 15:27, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

So does it mean, I can create whenever i want? Royiswariii Talk! 09:04, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

I doubt anyone will stop you, but I recommend you get some people on board first. C F A 14:42, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

Tech News: 2024-48

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Updates for editors

• A new version of the standard wikitext editor-mode syntax highlighter will be available as a beta feature later this week. This brings many new features and bug fixes, including right-to-left support, template folding, autocompletion, and an improved search panel. You can learn more on the help page.
• The 2010 wikitext editor now supports common keyboard shortcuts such Ctrl+B for bold and Ctrl+I for italics. A full list of all six shortcuts is available. Thanks to SD0001 for this improvement. [1]
• Starting November 28, Flow/Structured Discussions pages will be automatically archived and set to read-only at the following wikis: bswiki, elwiki, euwiki, fawiki, fiwiki, frwikiquote, frwikisource, frwikiversity, frwikivoyage, idwiki, lvwiki, plwiki, ptwiki, urwiki, viwikisource, zhwikisource. This is done as part of StructuredDiscussions deprecation work. If you need any assistance to archive your page in advance, please contact Trizek (WMF).
• View all 25 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, a user creating a new AbuseFilter can now only set the filter to "protected" if it includes a protected variable.

Updates for technical contributors

• The CodeEditor, which can be used in JavaScript, CSS, JSON, and Lua pages, now offers live autocompletion. Thanks to SD0001 for this improvement. The feature can be temporarily disabled on a page by pressing Ctrl+, and un-selecting "Live Autocompletion".
• Tool-maintainers who use the Graphite system for tracking metrics, need to migrate to the newer Prometheus system. They can check this dashboard and the list in the Description of the task T350592 to see if their tools are listed, and they should claim metrics and dashboards connected to their tools. They can then disable or migrate all existing metrics by following the instructions in the task. The Graphite service will become read-only in April. [2]
• The New PreProcessor parser performance report has been fixed to give an accurate count for the number of Wikibase entities accessed. It had previously been resetting after 400 entities. [3]

Meetings and events

• A Language community meeting will take place November 29 at 16:00 UTC. There will be presentations on topics like developing language keyboards, the creation of the Mooré Wikipedia, the language support track at Wiki Indaba, and a report from the Wayuunaiki community on their experiences with the Incubator and as a new community over the last 3 years. This meeting will be in English and will also have Spanish interpretation.

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My sandbox Image

Hi, Hope you are well, can I just clarify why you dont think my image is suitable? is it an ai mockup of a person and never claims to actually be this person. simply functions as a visual aid as there were no picture of my person who there was creative commons for. thank you Julianna16 (talk) 10:15, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

"Cite web" RfD closed as "no consensus" rather than "keep"

Hi. It's not that important, but I'm a bit curious as to why you closed the Cite web RfD as "no consensus" rather than "keep".

I know these are not democratic votes, and I'm not that familiar with closing them. But there were only two users actually arguing for deletion, and one of them only said that "Cite web" might also refer to something outside of wikis. Presumably, if I understood it correctly, this meant that it might be its own article or redirect to a mainspace section. You can probably tell that I didn't find it convincing.

The IP editor made a decent argument about WP:CNR, using the "WP:"-shortcut and that articlespace exclusively should be readership content. But I would say that the consensus appeared to be to keep the redirect because of the possible positive effect on citation quality and the convenience of editors, both new and experienced.

I'm sorry to relitigate this, especially as the result mostly is the same with both. And I know that consensus is a vague thing. I just interpreted it differently.

(Pinging as to not go behind their back. Crouch, Swale, 65.92.246.77) (And to declare a potential conflict, for lack of a better term, I have also replied to the Cite AV media RfD and stated that the Cite web RfD was closed as "no censensus". So if it now changes, I think I should pledge not to update that matter in the Cite AV media RfD, to keep these matters separate.) BucketOfSquirrels (talk) 19:55, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

• There were 43 (or 54 if you count the sock strike'd nom) favouring deletion and 6 people favouring keeping. The main argument for deleting was that its a XNR for a non Wikipedia specific term which is well grounded in consensus about such redirects. The main argument for keeping was that many people find it useful which is also well grounded in consensus. I might well have closed the discussion as "keep" if I'd been the closer but "no consensus" also seems fine. Crouch, Swale (talk) 20:15, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

  I counted three "delete"s + nom, where one didn't add any arguments, and nom only argued that it had been while since the last discussion. My argument was also a bit repetitive in this one, but either by the democratic or argumentative standard, I thought the RfD leaned towards "keep". But I'm biased, and I agree that "no consensus" wasn't a great injustice. BucketOfSquirrels (talk) 21:08, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

  Sorry there was one less than I counted but I do think that the arguments about being a non-Wikipedia specific XNR may be enough to prevent this from being a "keep" even though I probably would have closed as such. Crouch, Swale (talk) 22:42, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

That's alright. Thanks for taking the time. BucketOfSquirrels (talk) 01:12, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi BucketOfSquirrels. I closed it as "no consensus to delete", which is not the same as a general "no consensus" close. I was originally going to close as keep, but I felt that this was a better representation of the arguments presented, pointing to the fact that deletion — what the nominator was looking for — was very unlikely to happen (see WP:SNOW). Common practice is generally to delete non-Wikipedia-specific cross-namespace redirects from mainspace, so I weighted the IAR keep votes saying that they find it personally useful slightly less than I might've normally. Relisting may well have balanced out the numbers, but a consensus to delete was clearly not going to emerge so there was no point in keeping it open. I wasn't saying there was no consensus at all in the discussion, just that consensus for deletion was unlikely to happen. C F A 21:10, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

OK. Thank you for taking the time. I wasn't aware of the difference and just focused on the "no consensus" in bold. But it makes me wonder what would be the best way to differentiate between the "hung jury" no consensus and the "it was never gonna happen" no consensus. I get that this system isn't changing anytime soon. It's just that when pages like these start earning entire scrolls of XfD's to list, then it seems like the short form of the conclusion could matter further down the line. But it appears that it wasn't quite there this time. BucketOfSquirrels (talk) 01:12, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

Wikifunctions & Abstract Wikipedia Newsletter #182 is out: WordGraph release; New Special page: list functions by tests; new type for day of the year, and much more

There is a new update for Abstract Wikipedia and Wikifunctions. Please, come and read it!

In this issue, we discuss the implications of the release of Google Zurich's WordGraph dataset, we introduce a new special page, support for other Wikidata statements and a new type (day of Roman year), and finally we take a look at the latest software developments.

Want to catch up with the previous updates? Check our archive!

Enjoy the reading! -- User:Sannita (WMF) (talk) 15:03, 28 November 2024 (UTC)