Talk:Salmon P. Chase

The Alpha Delta Phi

The article as currently written describes Chase as having been a member of the Alpha Delta Phi as well as Phi Beta Kappa in the same sentence ending "and graduated from Dartmouth in 1826." However, Chase's membership in the Alpha Delta Phi Literary Society is more interesting than that. He was made an honorary member (if memory serves, in 1836) by the founder of Alpha Delta Phi, Samuel Eells, only a short number of years after the Fraternity's founding in 1832. Eells was a talented public orator, and was recruited into Chase's practice shortly after passing the Bar in Ohio. Literature I've seen provided by the Alpha Delta Phi describes them as having made fast friends as two very rare abolitionists in their set and setting, and Chase is the only Honorary Member of the Fraternity that I can currently recall.

As a long time patron without the experience to properly source and enter this into the encyclopedia, I thought I would point anyone willing to research and articulate an easy and fascinating entry to the recorded history of the Alpha Delta Phi. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.99.169.54 (talk) 16:30, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

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Salmon P. Chase and money.

The article states that Chief Justice Chase ruled that certain parts of the legal tender measures were unconsitutional.

The point here is that Salmon P. Chase did not support fiat money. He introduced it as a crises measure during the Civil War - not with the view to make it part of the American scene. To write of the introduction (as the article does)as a great achievement is an OPINION (and not the opinion of Salmon P. Chase). As for Chase being on the old ten thousand Dollar bill - this is a similar thing to President Andrew Jackson (another "hard money" man) being on a bill - neither person would have regarded it as an honour (rather the reverse).

Paul Marks.

Secretary of the Mint? Do we mean Secretary of the Treasury, or Treasurer of the United States? Anonymous, can you give us more detail in these many, many articles you're creating? -- Zoe

Chase's daughter

Is her name "Kate," or is that short for something? Did she have a middle name? Is she worthy of her own Wikipedia article? How about her two suitors? --clawson Kate chase was very jealous of her fathers 1st and 3rd wives ( her mother was 2nd ).

Kate needs her own entry. Rjensen 23:24, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

chase had 2 daughters!

Salmon Portland Chase had TWO daughters named Katherine. The first was born 16 Nov 1835 and died 6 Feb 1840. The second, by his second wife, was born 13 Aug 1840, married 12 Nov 1863 to Governor William Sprague of Rhode Island, and died 31 Jul 1899. I am a relative of theirs, which is why I have the information and am unsure about the appropriateness of me making actual entries in the main encyclopedia about them. You will find Kate mentioned in the entry in Wikipedia about her husband, along with a link to her own page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Sprague_%281830-1915%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_Chase Wisconsinator (talk) 03:13, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Ships and Building named for

• https://www.uscg.mil/history/webcutters/chase%5F1865.html Coast Guard Cutter - Dates of Service: 1865 - 1875
• https://www.uscg.mil/history/WEBCUTTERS/Chase_1878.html Cutter - 1878-1907
• https://www.uscga.edu/about/uscga_timeline.aspx Cutter - 1878-1907 (Another Listing)
• https://www.usmm.net/l/oregonvanc.html Liberty Ship - No. 575
• https://www.uscga.edu/campus/buildings_edu_chase.aspx Coast Guard Building
• https://www.cr.nps.gov/nr/twhp/wwwlps/lessons/123camp_chase/123facts1.htm Civil War POW Camp
• There are more...

--meatclerk 08:28, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

• https://www.cr.nps.gov/nr/travel/wash/dc35.htm Office restored in Treasury Building

--meatclerk 08:54, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Harper's Cartoon 1864 at Dartmouth.edu

https://www.dartmouth.edu/~library/Library_Bulletin/Apr1997/Wait.html See Figure 13 & 14. (16 July 1864)

--meatclerk 08:28, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Link to "Money Masters"

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this seemed out of place. I removed it, but we may certainly discuss.--TurabianNights 13:22, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Chase and Lincoln

I'm suprised more has not been made of Chase's ambitions to be president and how he spent a lot of his time while acting and tresurer trying to secure support for himself and how he worked quit ehard agaist Lincon to be become the choosen candiate. I know it mentions the thrre resignation letters that he put up that were denied by lincon but there is qutie a bit to mention why he did this.

Also his relationship with his daughter Kate is a very improtant one, as she had to take the place of his dead wife in social function and was almsot indespensible to him, so much so it caused soem problems when she got married as to how he was goign to look after himself etc.

This can all be seen in the book " A Team of Rivals" by Doris Kearns Goodwin

Philbentley 21:53, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

I agree that the information of this document is a bit questionable. However, the neutrality of Ms. Goodwin's book is a bit biased toward Lincoln's side as well. While the evidence shows that Chase did have his quirks, I would not entirely lean on antecdotal information provided by "Team of Rivals". Don't get me wrong. I enjoyed the book, and it does give a lot of facts. However, Doris was apparently picky about what facts she wanted to present to tell her story. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this in a Biography, but for an encyclopedia, there needs to be a bit more neutrality. I'll do my best to clean up the neutrality of this document in the next few weeks. --GonzosTorment 01:00, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

re: Chase and "In God We Trust"

Where is the cite for that? Were those words not added to our currency in the 1950s? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ben Manski (talk • contribs) 19:06, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Don't get so excited. that was under god. but heres something to argue about. there are 3 non-presidents on us money. name them. I'll be back. alright you don't know. ben franklinhiemer, alex hamiltonhiemer and salmon p. chasenhiemer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.122.62.231 (talk) 22:24, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

By the way. You're right. under god could have been in the '50s. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.122.62.231 (talk) 22:30, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Found a source: [1] --Son of lucas (talk) 09:01, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Salmon P. Chase and Samuel Chase

Was Salmon P. Chase any relation to supreme court justice Samuel Chase? I suspect not, but the article should say so, probably parenthetically. I don't know for sure, so I don't want to change the article yet. —75.4.235.187 (talk) 20:36, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

It is my understanding that Samuel Chase was indeed Salmon's father, but was not the Samuel Chase who was Supreme Court justice. Salmon's father died in 1800, Samuel the chief justice died in 1811. Found on Google Books: Salmon P. Chase: A Biography, By John Niven, Published by Oxford University Press US, 1995, p. 6. Lucas20 (talk) 21:04, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

The article says that Salmon's father was Ithamar Chase, who died in 1817. Valetude (talk) 21:48, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Walter Stahr's biography of Chase spells his father's name "Ithamer." (When Ithamar or Ithamer died, Chase went to live with his uncle Philander Chase. Chase's grandparents had a way with names. So did his parents, naming his "Salmon.") I trust Walter Stahr, because his biography of Chase is magnificent, but I googled for Chase's father's name, and came up with a couple of hits for "Ithamar" and none for "Ithamer." That might be because the sites that have "Ithamar" might have relied on Wikipedia. (See how important our editing is!) Since not a lot rides on the spelling of Chase's father's name, I'll let it be until I find something more definitive. Maurice Magnus (talk) 23:17, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

Bot-created subpage

A temporary subpage at User:Polbot/fjc/Salmon Portland Chase was automatically created by a perl script, based on this article at the Biographical Directory of Federal Judges. The subpage should either be merged into this article, or moved and disambiguated. Polbot (talk) 17:27, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

More Information on Later Personal Life?

I'm considering adding more information to the article on later Chase's personal life. There is no information here about the death of later 2 wives, for example.

Perhaps a new section regarding his later life would be useful? Just a thought.

Concchambers (talk) 15:40, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Fun fact salmon p chase is my great great ..... grandpa

lol — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamesisbestt (talk • contribs) 01:09, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

That's great, James. I'm here to tell you, when you randomly look this comment up again in 5 years, that I love you. Best of luck in life. Pass it on. --2601:182:C900:3C90:9D1:A69B:C15D:9278 (talk) 03:38, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

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Name pronunciation

Is it pronounced like the fish? My 8th grade physics teacher's last name was Salmon, but it was pronounced like it's spelled.---Scottandrewhutchins (talk) 04:29, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

(1 year later) I hope someone will answer User:Scottandrewhutchins and add this information to the article. 173.88.246.138 (talk) 08:32, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Salmon is a biblical name. In Hebrew, it would be pronounced with the "L" - SAL-mon. How to say "Salmon" in Hebrew.

In American English, it's usually pronounced without the L - Sammon. Video on YouTube.

I confess that I don't know how Chase pronounced it himself.

Hope this helps.

Billmckern (talk) 22:58, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Family?

Three wives listed in the infobox, but no mention of family life. Valetude (talk) 00:14, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

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Salmon P. Chase (January 13, 1808 – May 7, 1873) was an American politician and jurist who served as the sixth chief justice of the United States. He also served as the 23rd governor of Ohio and represented the state in the United States Senate. He served as the 25th secretary of the treasury, leading to his being featured on the last version of the U.S. $10,000 bill. He sought the Republican nomination for president in the 1860 presidential election, but the party chose Abraham Lincoln at the national convention. This line engraving of Chase was produced around 1902 by the Department of the Treasury's Bureau of Engraving and Printing (BEP) as part of a BEP presentation album of the first 42 secretaries of the treasury.

Engraving credit: Bureau of Engraving and Printing; restored by Andrew Shiva

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explanation of edit

Under the section "Chief Justice," I changed "permitted" to "eligible" in this sentence: "One of Chase's first acts as Chief Justice was to admit John Rock to the Supreme Court Bar, making him the first African-American attorney eligible to argue cases before the Supreme Court." I did so because "permitted" could be read to imply that Rock argued cases before the Supreme Court, and I don't know whether he did. The reason that I didn't explain this when I made the edit is that my finger hit something that published my edit before I intended to. Maurice Magnus (talk) 23:01, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

In a situation like that, you can always do a null edit (add a space at the end of a sentence, or delete an extra one somewhere, and then add a meaningful edit summary for the preceding edit. Kind of overkill for this simple instance, but maybe useful for the future. — JohnFromPinckney (talk / edits) 13:00, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

In case anyone is interested, I've learned that John Rock (abolitionist) never argued before the Supreme Court. I added that info to his Wikipedia article, in the section "Death." Maurice Magnus (talk) 21:06, 2 August 2023 (UTC)