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Thanks! I've used your remarks to add annotations to the image itself. Could you have a look & make sure I got this all right? - Jmabel ! talk 17:14, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi NVO

Hi matie, I saw you made an edit to the White House page, I sincerely hope you will continue to contribute to Commons, even if not contributing to enwiki and the like. You know you have been, and still are, an invaluable asset to Commons; one that we really can't afford to lose. Anyway, hope all is well with you. Cheers, --russavia (talk) 06:34, 9 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How many photos done now?

I see you have been busy busy busy with the photos - how many have you done now, and how many do ya have left? And is there any of my beloved embassies in amongst any of them? ;) --russavia (talk) 19:51, 2 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oh please, embassies are just civilized barracks. How many US Marines are guarding every window in their Vladivostok consulate? Twenty-three! Now I'm more concerned not with my photos (I swear I have less than 3,000 waiting in line) but with category:Moscow in general - there are scores of twisted subcats that escape the public eye, especially inside "historic photos of..." cats. Some embassies might be there. But, realistically, I can do it on weekends only.
  • BTW, when will your en-wiki lockup expire? Does it, right now, cover topics like the conquest of Hawaii by a German employed by the Russians? I laughed my ass out reading about this chap's adventures - a story worth coming back (he's mentioned in dozens of articles but no one dared to put together a bio in en-wiki - maybe they're still laughing?). NVO (talk) 13:57, 3 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Французское правописание

Август Шодэ

По-французски имя должно писаться так: Auguste Chaudet.

Это по аналогиям.... Как у него было фо французском паспорте, не знаю...

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В сети есть несколько интересных фото Москвы, сделанных с LZ-127 [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6]. Не поможете определить автора (или его отсутствие) и источник (публиковались ли они вообще) снимков? Я так понимаю, что у вас это хорошо получается. И как вы думаете по авторскому праву какой страны (РФ или ФРГ) судить о статусе этих фото? Я что-то запутался. -- TarzanASG +1  23:11, 25 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

А я и не распутывался :(( те же коммонс централизованно грузят тысячи фото военных и послевоенных лет из Бундесархива, которые в иных обстоятельствах ушли бы на быстрое удаление автоматом. А что касается источников - надо искать первого публикатора. NVO (talk) 07:43, 26 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
О! Ну так это ж Бундесархив! Они поклялись, что им принадлежат авторские права и у них есть полномочия на лицензирование. Им поверили. )) -- TarzanASG +1  17:33, 26 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ostankino Tower

Hello NVO,

I am a german Wikipedia-writer and presently writing/reworking the german article of the Ostankino Tower (see: de:Fernsehturm Ostankino) in Moscow. It would be nice to have some better images of the tower, especially of some parts of it. S1 recommended me you as a great photographer :) Maybe you like to take some pictures for me. My perception is having good quality pictures of this parts of the tower:

(1) a picture of the main pod of Ostankino Tower (part that is from 325 Meter until 360 Meter above ground), a picture similar like the main pod of the CN Tower I made (Image:Toronto - ON - CN Tower Turmkorb.jpg)

(2) a picture of the socle, such like this one Image:Socle ostankino tower.JPG but for sure without the tracks of the Moscow Monorail Transit System :)

(3) some detailed images of the structure, e.g. the portholes on the socle or the antenna, ...

(4) If you are able to make a high resolution panorama picture of the complete structure like this one Image:Pano res.jpg this would be nice but it is not necessary

There is no reason to rush. Wait for good and sunny conditions and feel free to give you time. Thank you and greetings from Germany. Wladyslaw (talk) 08:47, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • It should wait for better days... it's snowing snowing and the forecast is more snowing, and usually winter lighting in the city doesn't get much better than that monorail track shot (it's either whiteout or harsh, nearly-horisontal sun). Also, I don't have and don't use a tele lens, so the main pod will be small... very small... NVO (talk) 11:45, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
No problem because don't use a tele lens. Try to take a few details of the tower and we'll wait for sunny days in Moscow. Wladyslaw (talk) 14:28, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Вопрос

Уважаемый NVO мне задали вопрос, ответа на который я не знаю. Может Вы поможете: "File:Youri_Gagarin_monument_1.jpg. Isn't there no COM:FOP for modern statues and sculptures in the former Soviet states where the artist has not been dead for 70 years?" Что ответить? --Lodo27 (talk) 09:01, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Нечего отвечать. Да, есть такое правило - нет в РФ свободы панорамы - пока не прошло 70 лет от смерти каждого из соавторов, фотографии картин, скульптур и зданий (вплоть до типовой панели) coзданных после 1917 года выкладывать на коммонс нельзя. См. "Свободу панорамы" на ру-вики. По опыту прошлых лет - массовое удаление (сотни фото за раз), как правило, не проходит (типа нет консенсуса, может болтаться нерешеным годами), единичные удаления - проходят. NVO (talk) 00:17, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • В данном случае вопрос нелёгкий. С одной стороны, фотографировать статую Гагарина на CC нельзя. С другой стороны, на этой фотографии не статуя, а целый вид на перекрёсток, улицу, дома. На мой взгляд, фотография не нарушает.--PereslavlFoto (talk) 15:01, 11 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Новая категория

На Викискладе есть фотографии, на которых изображены иконы на стенах храмов. Для большего порядка я хочу создать для них специальную подкатегорию и поместить её в Category:Icons of Russia. Короткое обсуждение этой темы и примеры изображений икон.

Icons on the walls of Russian Churches - правильно ли название для такой категории? и нужна ли она вообще (на Ваш взгляд)? --Lodo27 (talk) 20:50, 14 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Я не берусь судить, где - именно иконы, а где - монументальная живопись, росписи (murals), специалист нужен. Вот посмотрел книгу по реставрации (совершенно светскую) - там и в авторском тексте, и в цитатах 19 века всё, что на стенах - росписи. Вот конкретно на стенах Благовещенского собора, который чуть ли не каждое десятилетие обновляли (File:The_Cathedral_of_the_Annunciation.jpg) над порталом и справа от него над окном) - именно росписи. NVO (talk) 21:02, 14 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Murals in Russia совсем пустая. А может упростить подход и назвать категорию Icons and Murals on the walls of Russian Churches, т.к. мы не сможем отличить настенные иконы от росписей. Или не создавать такую категорию совсем? Что думаете? --Lodo27 (talk) 06:31, 15 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Извините, что встреваю. Судя по контенту, в Category:Murals в основном разные настенные уличные панно. Для фресок есть базовая категория Category:Frescos in Russia (и ещё одна - Category:Frescoes in Russian Orthodox Churches, там какое-то малопонятное дублирование). Для наружных фресок, киотов и, к примеру, мозаик - никакого специального выделения нет. Имеет смысл создать самостоятельную ветку категорий вида External Murals and Icons on the walls of Churches in Russia и включать её в Category:Churches in Russia и на более общем уровне (как External Murals and Icons on the walls of Churches) - в Category:Architectural elements of churches. Позднее можно будет поделить по конфессиям, стилям и периодам, чтобы слинковать с соотв. ветками дерева категорий. --Kaganer (talk) 01:46, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Точно так же можно будет выделить наружные мозаики и фрески. --Kaganer (talk) 01:59, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Согласен с вами Kaganer. Можно пока наполнять новую категорию Category:External Murals and Icons on the walls of Churches in Russia. По мере наполнения лучше будет видно, что с ней делать дальше. --Lodo27 (talk) 07:49, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Вопрос: как удалить категорию

Здравствуйте NVO. Ошибочно создал категорию Category:Church of Saints Boris and Gleb in Russia - как её можно удалить? --Lodo27 (talk) 20:55, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Уже сделано. --S[1] 21:20, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

[7] Вы считаете, что в категории «Rybnaya sloboda in Pereslavl» будут только деревянные постройки. Это неверно. Поэтому я полагаю, что вынесенная вами категория ошибочна. Сейчас, до поры до времени, всё в порядке, но когда в категории «Rybnaya sloboda in Pereslavl» появятся другие фотографии — вы должны будете исправить дело.--PereslavlFoto (talk) 11:55, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

сделано. NVO (talk) 22:54, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Церкви

Смотрите: de:Liste der Kirchen in Moskau. Сразу видно, каких фоток ещё не хватает. С апреля-мая тоже подключаюсь. --S[1] 20:45, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Матка боска! И вы туда же. Я в своё время на en-wiki cделал такое... три сотни за пределами ЦАО. До ЦАО не дошел, но там ещё две сотни. Чудовищная была таблица. Совет: разбейте таблицу по округам, а внутри ЦАО по районам, иначе ориентироваться никак. Тем более есть церкви, у которых несколько взаимозаменяемых названий (Покрова на Рву - Василия Блаженного), по ним могут возникнуть задвойки. Монастыри лучше в отдельный раздел, один монастырь - одна строка. NVO (talk) 21:57, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Неужели пятьсот? Впрочем, я не включал в список неосвящённые храмы (как например кремлёвские дворцовые) и часовни. Может быть, за счет этого у меня на всю Москву получается только 300 с лишним. Насчет разделения на округа придётся, конечно, рано или поздно учесть, но сперва хотелось бы всё-таки, чтобы по возможности все (ну или почти все, за понятными исключениями типа этого) церкви Москвы были со свободными изображениями. Когда будет это достигнуто, буду пробивать список в избранные, и уж тогда придётся (уже хотя бы из соображений совести перед пользователями модемов) разбивать на части. --S[1] 23:54, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Вроде нет этой: Category:Church of Nativity of John the Baptist in Sokolniki. Найти её было очень трудно, т.к. она расположена на территории завода. Кстати практически полный список всех московских храмов (включая снесённые) с фотками и описанием можно найти в 4-х томнике Паламарчука Сорок сороков. В этой книге он также предложил удобный способ структурирования, значительно облегчающий ориентацию.--Lodo27 (talk) 17:10, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Но она ведь не действующая, не так ли? В моём лично списке — только действующие (освящённые, с богослужениями) и находящиеся в отдельном здании храмы; на большее моего мазохизма не хватает. Сорри ;) --S[1] 18:52, 27 February 2010 (UTC) P.S. Если пойдёте фотографировать, смело смотрите в списке, где еще нет изображений. Все имеющиеся свободные изображения я, по-моему, уже выудил.[reply]
Храм действует, находится в отдельном здании. Лично был в нём. Насчёт структурирования. Можно по благочиниям. За основу взять список храмов с sobory.ru. У них там практически полный список и координаты и фотки и описания есть. Пример: Преображенское благочиние.--Lodo27 (talk) 19:18, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Добавил. --S[1] 20:29, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]


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Храмы Воскресения Словущего в России

Здравствуйте NVO. Помогите, приз, разобраться со следующим вопросом.

Я решил загрузить фотографию храма Воскресения Словущего на Арбате, нашёл его название: Church of the Renewal of the Temple of the Resurrection of Christ at Jerusalem in Arbat. Затем проверил в категории Category:Christ churches in Russia - пока нет ни одного такого названия. Затем проверил на викискладе другие Храмы Воскресения Словущего и оказалось, что все они помещены в категорию Category:Churches of the Resurrection of Christ. Более того в описании у многих написано Church of Resurrection - вот пример: File:Moscow, Bryusov 15 (2).jpg. Однако мне популярно объяснили, что Воскресения словущего совершенно другой праздник - церковь празднует память Обновления храма Воскресения во Иерусалиме.

Может стоит создать новую категорию и назвать её Churches of the Renewal of the Temple in Russia - для краткости и поместить в неё все храмы и категории с храмами Воскресения Словущего. Или использовать полное название, для большей ясности. Что думаете? --Lodo27 (talk) 11:14, 4 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Век живи - век учись. Не знал. Наверное, уместен либо краткий вариант либо Church of the Renewal of the Temple of the Resurrection in .... NVO (talk) 15:22, 5 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Churches of the Renewal of the Temple of the Resurrection in Russia внутри категории теперь есть пояснение названия на русском и полный вариант названия по английски. И ещё маленький вопрос. У вас есть права на удаление категорий, а то я хочу заменить названия у нескольких категорий. --Lodo27 (talk) 18:24, 5 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Нет прав. В старую категорию вписывайте запрос на удаление с указанием правильного адреса, например:
{{badname|Category:Church of the Renewal of the Temple of the Resurrection in Uspensky Vrazhek}}
админы удалят. NVO (talk) 16:30, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Fernrohr (talk) 16:33, 22 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]


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Fernrohr (talk) 10:53, 24 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

August Weber

Thanks for Pécs Cathedral. Great job! Another question. The Austro-Russian architect August Weber built a lot in Moscow in the 188Os and 1890s. Do you happen to have pictures?--Robert Schediwy (talk) 09:10, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks again! The August Weber category is now linked to his article in German Wikipedia. He was a promising architect of Vienna's Ringstraßen-era too and built e.g. the Kuenstlerhaus and the locaton of the Gartenbaugesellschaft. But here again, his buildings were not tall enough to survive well. The Gartenbau building is already gone and the Kuenstlerhaus is in constant danger. Greetings from Vienna! --Robert Schediwy (talk) 20:33, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

welcome back

Я рад, что вы снова активны здесь. Надеюсь на новые фотки в скором времени. Из удаленных здесь ваших файлов я восстановил в немецком разделе несколько наиболее востребованных (см. de:Kategorie:Datei:Metro Moskau). - A.S. 01:51, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]